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To: reegs
The GOP should make a good faith effort to achieve reasonable compromises. If we can get bills created that help the country, then (of course) the GOP should vote for them.

But if compromise is impossible, if the bills are looking bad, then the Republicans should "abstain" and allow bad bills to pass with nothing but Democrats voting Yes. That way the Left cannot point to bad law and say, "Hey, you guys voted for it too."

We're not helping the country when we lose elections. Maybe we should work toward helping the country understand that the Democrats -- and only the Democrats -- are taking us to a bad place.

10 posted on 11/08/2012 9:06:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Global Warming is a religion, and I don't want to be taxed to pay for a faith that is not mine.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yep, they should just vote “Present”.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 9:16:47 AM PST by PogySailor (Barack Obama just won the right to be the Captain of the Titanic)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree. Excellent idea.They need to quit allowing the dems to demonize them.

Let the dems own their folly.


42 posted on 11/08/2012 9:31:57 AM PST by dforest
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree with most of what you are saying. They should still stand for Constitutional principles and make their points known, but if the population wants higher taxes, etc. abstain or vote present and let the Democrats alone vote to give America the final shove over the cliff.

America wanted the disaster that Obama calls for, so I say, let them have it, while at the same time hanging the ownership of the disaster fully on the neck of Obama and his followers.


53 posted on 11/08/2012 9:53:03 AM PST by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The GOP should make a good faith effort to achieve reasonable compromises. If we can get bills created that help the country, then (of course) the GOP should vote for them.

But if compromise is impossible, if the bills are looking bad, then the Republicans should "abstain" and allow bad bills to pass with nothing but Democrats voting Yes. That way the Left cannot point to bad law and say, "Hey, you guys voted for it too."

We're not helping the country when we lose elections. Maybe we should work toward helping the country understand that the Democrats -- and only the Democrats -- are taking us to a bad place.

What you say makes perfect sense. Unfortunately, for Democrats, compromise means "you Republicans just go along with whatever we propose, and if you don't then you are obstructing." Would abstaining be propagandized as obstructing? Good question. I think it was tried in the first 2 years when Pelosi was Speaker.

I don't think Boehner's up for the job. I would love to see Paul Ryan challenge him for Speakership in the next Congress.

57 posted on 11/08/2012 10:03:41 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The GOP-e said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree that Republicans should make a very visible good faith effort. But Boehner should also announce a very firm “no backroom deals” position, not only on the fiscal cliff but also on all future budgets. The House should pass its proposal and then demand that the Senate do the same, and then go to conference. Regular order. The default position would be a continuing resolution at last year’s levels, with not a penny more, along with defunding of a couple of targets of opportunity to add some heat. If the dems shut down the government, so be it. We have to tough it out, keep emphasizing that the House has passed a budget, and demand that the Senate does its job.


63 posted on 11/08/2012 10:37:08 AM PST by sphinx
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