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2016 election: Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush?
Politico ^ | November 8, 2012 | JONATHAN MARTIN and MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 11/08/2012 8:38:17 AM PST by NCjim

BOSTON — American politics may be headed back to the future.

Four years after the country elected a 40-something African-American newcomer named Barack to the presidency, a more familiar political order is poised to reassert itself: the House of Clinton representing Democrats and the House of Bush atop the GOP.

The restoration of either is no sure thing, but what’s certain is that Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush loom the largest over their respective parties as the long road toward 2016 begins. Any other would-be presidential candidate will first take a long look toward Chappaqua and Miami before moving forward.

Clinton, particularly, freezes her party’s 2016 nomination process starting at this moment. After barely falling short in 2008 and earning high marks and soaring approval ratings in four years as America’s top diplomat, she unambiguously has the strongest claim on being the next Democratic standard-bearer. If, and it is a big unknown, she wants another shot at the presidency.

Bush, were he to run, most likely wouldn’t clear the field in the way Clinton could. But his gravitas, fundraising capability, Florida roots and entree to Hispanics makes him the most formidable Republican on a sparkling roster of potential 2016 contenders.

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1 posted on 11/08/2012 8:38:21 AM PST by NCjim
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To: NCjim

No and hell no


2 posted on 11/08/2012 8:39:51 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: NCjim

What an asinine thought


3 posted on 11/08/2012 8:39:59 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: NCjim

GOD HELP US


4 posted on 11/08/2012 8:40:24 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: NCjim

The market for Presidential candidates reminds me of the movie industry...stale ideas and remakes.


5 posted on 11/08/2012 8:40:44 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: NCjim

OK....and who would be the third party candidate? I’m not talking about the Libertarian or Green Party.


6 posted on 11/08/2012 8:40:59 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: NCjim

7 posted on 11/08/2012 8:41:23 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: NCjim

OHHHH GOODY, “politico”, ALREADY PICKING out 2016 Candidate.


8 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:02 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: NCjim

Hillary Clinton is a tired, old hag. No way. Jeb Bush is a moderate and just his ties to W are a non-starter.

Rubio looks like a good candidate. If he can some how champion real immigration reform (not amnesty) in the next few years, he would draw more latino support.


9 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:25 AM PST by TJ Jackson
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To: NCjim

I’m all in favor of Jeb runnin. If the GOP selects him, it will save me gas money on voting day.

If they run one more RINO, the GOP will die, if it’s not dead already.

I could back Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, Allen West. That’s about it at the moment.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:30 AM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: NCjim

Politico already looking to game the system?

Or just trolling for webclicks to generate ad revenue?


11 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STPostUCK ON STUPID)
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To: NCjim

After Benghazi, Hillary Clinton is toast.


12 posted on 11/08/2012 8:42:51 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: NCjim

jeb bush is a despised man and he will never get the nod and if he did... the republican party should just fold the tent and go home.

LLS


13 posted on 11/08/2012 8:43:19 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (I AM JOHN GALT)
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To: NCjim
soaring approval ratings in four years as America’s top diplomat

Especially in Benghazi.

14 posted on 11/08/2012 8:43:36 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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There is no way, after the wars and the financial meltdown that another Bush can win a national election. Even if Jeb managed to win the primary he couldn’t win. That would be suicide.

After Obama won re-election, I am afraid to even make a comment on what Dems couldn’t win.


15 posted on 11/08/2012 8:43:44 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: mkboyce

“Stay out da Bushes!”


16 posted on 11/08/2012 8:43:50 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: NCjim
WHO CARES!I don't think there will be a thing left for Hillary to destroy..I doubt there will be another election..We just have to protect ourselves and family..
17 posted on 11/08/2012 8:44:52 AM PST by PLD
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To: NCjim

We need a Latino. A freeper mentioned Cruz which appears to be like a good choice. I also like Rubio but wonder why Romney didn’t pick him for the VP spot.


18 posted on 11/08/2012 8:45:36 AM PST by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: mkboyce

Who is Ben Ghazi? sarc/ Never underestimate the power of ignorance.


19 posted on 11/08/2012 8:45:40 AM PST by Truth29
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To: NCjim

Then it will be time to move to the new country of Texas...
Not a chance..I don’t want to see another Bush.. I know they are a nice family but I don’t like their politics of New World Order which the elder Bush used to mention..They are Progressives too in elephant suits. Though I did thin Laura was a most gracious FL quite unlike the First Frump Grifter.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:04 AM PST by celtic gal
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To: NCjim; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

"NO! TEH STUPID BURNZ! MAK IT STOP!!!"

21 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:04 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STPostUCK ON STUPID)
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To: NCjim

“2016 election: Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush?”

Oh puhleeezeee! For the love of heaven, do we now have to endure salt in the wounds too? Give it a rest and let us go heal our wounds before we have to deal with this cr@p again!

Besides, Joe B’s gonna run, and O’s gonna become president of the UN. We’ll have empty chairs everywhere...


22 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:15 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: mkboyce
After Benghazi, Hillary Clinton is toast.

Benghazi? What are you talikng about? There's nothing to see there. If there was, I'm sure the investigation that Obama ordered would have uncovered it by now. That story has gone the way of Fast and Furious.

23 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:42 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: NCjim

I wish there was a barf alert because I glanced at the title and now I am barfing.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:42 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: TJ Jackson

Rubio looks like a good candidate. If he can some how champion real immigration reform (not amnesty) in the next few years, he would draw more latino support.


Which do you want him to do: non-amnesty type reform or draw latino support?


25 posted on 11/08/2012 8:47:08 AM PST by ksen
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To: NCjim

Here we go again. The Fourth Estate working on conservative defeat 2016 already.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:47:29 AM PST by John 3_19-21 (Stand for something or fall for anything.)
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To: NCjim

I couldn’t care less. I’m so done. Going forward, it’s all about survival for my family.


27 posted on 11/08/2012 8:47:45 AM PST by jersey117
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To: NCjim
2016 election: Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush?
2016 election: Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush Scott Walker.
28 posted on 11/08/2012 8:48:22 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NCjim

This is just silly. Those two are yesterday’s candidates. I don’t know who will run next time, but Hillary is finished. And the thought of another Bush in the White House is irrational.


29 posted on 11/08/2012 8:48:28 AM PST by Essie
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To: NCjim

As if Dear Leader will step down in 2016. What a laugh.


30 posted on 11/08/2012 8:48:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: NCjim
Jeb Bush will be the nominee.

Did you notice that during the 2008 campaign, various people entered the race, but they actually functioned as blockers, as in football, to make sure that McCain crossed the goal line to become the nominee? Without conservatives able to unite behind one man, McCain could not be tackled.

Did you notice the same thing in 2012 with respect to Romney carrying the ball? All this was orchestrated by the Republican Establishment to make sure that another Reagan type, free of their control, could never be nominated.

The same thing will happen in 2016. Candidates will enter the race at the behest of the Republican Establishment to make sure that insurgents cannot unite behind one man and break their control.

Jeb Bush will cross the finish line. At that point, the Tea Party will have to decide whether to go third party or do what they did this year. The bogeyman -- or bogeywoman -- in this case will be Hillary.

31 posted on 11/08/2012 8:49:47 AM PST by Publius (Will comply with 10-289 for food.)
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To: NCjim

I don’t think either party wants either one of them.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 8:54:28 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: NCjim
Hillary is yesterday's turd.

The Democratic nomination will be a battle between NY governor Andrew Cuomo and (by then) NJ governor or Senator Cory Booker.

33 posted on 11/08/2012 8:54:41 AM PST by dead (It ain't over until the phone lady sings.)
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To: mkboyce

“After Benghazi, Hillary Clinton is toast.”

Right, just like 0bama was toast after Benghazi.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 8:54:57 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: NCjim

That’s what I like about dynasties — there’s alway someone waiting to step up to the plate — even if they are old re-treads.

You know — I pity the fool who is the next president.


35 posted on 11/08/2012 8:55:12 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: NCjim

If that is the choice forced on us, than ef it, I will stay home.


36 posted on 11/08/2012 8:55:17 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Publius
"At that point, the Tea Party will have to decide whether to go third party or do what they did this year."

If that's going to happen, they need to do it NOW!

37 posted on 11/08/2012 8:56:01 AM PST by haywoodwebb (Keep your focus on the TRUTH and we will prevail . . . One Day at a Time, Mates!)
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To: NCjim

NOOOOOOOO!!

I hate political dynasties. They are anathema to a country that is supposed to give broad opportunities for the best to rise to the top.

You cant’ tell me that in a nation with over 300 million people that there isn’t a competent Republican available whose name isn’t Bush.

No!


38 posted on 11/08/2012 8:56:10 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: NCjim

Stay out da Bushes.


39 posted on 11/08/2012 8:56:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: dead

Cuomo is the odds on favorite....on the Republican side, I think we have lots of people who can do it. Marco is an obvious front runner.


40 posted on 11/08/2012 8:57:36 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: NCjim

Get me a bag of pop corn and sit home on the porch.


41 posted on 11/08/2012 8:58:18 AM PST by kenmcg (t)
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To: Publius
Jeb Bush will cross the finish line. At that point, the Tea Party will have to decide whether to go third party or do what they did this year

That decision will have to be made in the next 90 days.

42 posted on 11/08/2012 8:59:20 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Publius
If the Tea Party, and those sympathetic to its mission, really want to have a viable candidate for the GOP primaries, they need to create some sort of primary-type vetting prior to the GOP primaries.

By the time the GOP primary begins, the TEA Party needs to have already weeded out the conservative field to one primary TEA party candidate, with united conservative backing to fend off the usual Bush/Dole/Bush/McCain/Romney/Bush candidate.

43 posted on 11/08/2012 8:59:32 AM PST by dead (It ain't over until the phone lady sings.)
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To: NCjim

Hell No. How about Marco Rubio/ Allen West or Condi/Rubio


44 posted on 11/08/2012 9:00:33 AM PST by Swingj (Obama going down...)
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To: NCjim

We’ve had more than our fill of both. No thanks.


45 posted on 11/08/2012 9:01:03 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: haywoodwebb
If that's going to happen, they need to do it NOW!

Wait for the House GOP elections, and the first 30 days of the next session. If Paul Ryan is not elected Speaker or if they mark up a tax bill, it will be time.

46 posted on 11/08/2012 9:01:59 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: NCjim
2016 election: Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush?

ROFLMAO!

Okay, the nomination of yet another Bush will pretty well cement what I've been thinking for years.

Win or lose, the GOPe is ALWAYS reaching across the isle, which basically is Establishment Republicanese for giving the 'reach around' to the American people.

If they don't stay OUTTA DA BUSHES, they pretty much guarantee the birth of a third party....and it will be their OWN doing!

47 posted on 11/08/2012 9:02:51 AM PST by MamaTexan (In Propria Persona)
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To: NCjim
Doesn't that imply that there is an election. Be it a 0 dictatorship or economic collapse I do not have a high confidence in the country making it that far.

I expect calls to repeal the 22 amendment to start picking up steam.

48 posted on 11/08/2012 9:03:08 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (We have crossed the line from independence & liberty to dependency & servitude. We are doomed)
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To: NCjim
2016 election: Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush?

If that comes to pass Canada will have to erect electrified barbed wire fences with alligator moats in order to keep the fleeing hordes away...


49 posted on 11/08/2012 9:03:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Truth29

” why isn’t he the guy who played Ghandi in that movie?”Heard that on the radio not long ago...could not believe it! Wait,,yeah I can..the American Electorate is just stupid...and stupid is as stupid does but we, who are not stupid and have tried endlessly to educate this bunch of morons, will have to pay for it because we are among the Makers and they are the Takers..
We are so screwed!!


50 posted on 11/08/2012 9:03:38 AM PST by celtic gal
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