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1 posted on 11/08/2012 4:53:07 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Romney is a Rino but he would have been good for the country. We need a positive figurehead. Honor, dignity and class in the WH. Romney/Ryan would have given us that. We simply need someone who loves this country and for 4 more years, we don’t.


2 posted on 11/08/2012 4:56:57 AM PST by albie
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Anne Coulter just another Rino, not a conservative...


3 posted on 11/08/2012 4:57:15 AM PST by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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Anne, your hairdo is as hideous as your facelift and weird, fact tan.

Whutevuh....


4 posted on 11/08/2012 4:58:33 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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I know its a popular Freeper thing to simply dismiss people who dont agree with their purist views as "Rinos" or some other nonsense, and I sometimes fall into that trap. Anne gets on my nerve sometimes, and I dont always agree with everything she says.

BUT, she makes some good points here. Republicans need to get smarter in order to start WINNING. Conservatives, well, we need to get less stupid as well.

You see, the Democrats had a long term strategy. They did what it took to WIN, and now that they have done so for some time, they can tack hard left, and get what they wanted all along.

They dont call Republicans the Stupid party for nothin..

5 posted on 11/08/2012 5:13:24 AM PST by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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Well she’s right.

Did anyone think those positions were defendable?


6 posted on 11/08/2012 5:15:43 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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I am going to accept the notion that, because we don’t appeal to ethnic minorities, we can’t win. We had good candidates and great issues, and lost anyway. The Democrats corral the ethnic minorities. That’s why the Democrats continually call us racist, ironically. They want to scare the ethnic groups.


10 posted on 11/08/2012 5:20:47 AM PST by popdonnelly
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Incumbents usually win.

Obama's turnout dropped, what, eight million votes? And what was Romney's turnout? Lower than McCain's in 2008.

He did not appeal to many evangelicals. He had lukewarm at best appeal to Tea Partiers, many of whom held still their nose and voted for him - but many folks otherwise drawn to the Tea Party movement did not. He had minimal crossover appeal - he never came across as a guy who could understand what middle America is going through.

He never stated a clear, principled reason why he should win, other than he wasn't Obama. And to beat the incumbent, you have to do just that, as Reagan did in 1980. In other words, he failed to win over millions of disaffected Obama voters - they simply did not vote for president.

Mitt's fault. A terrible candidate in a winnable, Jimmah Carter kind of election.

12 posted on 11/08/2012 5:22:31 AM PST by dirtboy
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The loss is because of Mr. Romney and no one else.

He made a sterling VP choice, but hid most of the time.
HID.
HID, but protected by his wife.

When he happened to espouse a conservative position,
his likeability ROSE, but then he sat back again.

OTOH, Mr. Romney and Rove made a large fraction of
a billion dollars for themselves, so they are quite
happy with the result, and would be delighted to do it
again.


13 posted on 11/08/2012 5:23:46 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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What a crock.

We need to take over the GOP, and take it away from such stupid people.


14 posted on 11/08/2012 5:24:32 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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I wasn’t a huge romney fan. a little too moderate for me. BUT....I think he did a very good, very mature job of running for president. he was positive and knowledgable and inclusive. His VP choice was awesome. I don’t think we can blame this loss on romney.

we have to accept the fact that half of americans believe in voting themselves money...from the welfare rats to the unions. How can he fight that? not with a message of personal responsibility.


17 posted on 11/08/2012 5:26:45 AM PST by annelizly
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“Censorship was rampant throughout Nazi Germany. Censorship ensured that Germans could only see what the Nazi hierarchy wanted people to see, hear what they wanted them to hear and read only what the Nazis deemed acceptable. The Nazi police dealt with anyone who went outside of these boundaries. Censorship dominated the lives of the ordinary citizen in Nazi Germany.”
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/censorship_in_nazi_germany.htm
Change Nazi/Germany to Progressive Liberal America.

Most of the tens of millions of citizens of this nation get their “News” and from the Entertainment Industry in one form or another; and that media are controlled by the Progressive Liberals. If your only input is from the MEDIA controlled by the Progressive Liberals, that is what determines your intellectual criteria. Conservative Blogs and Fox are the exceptions and only inform a few million citizens. Romney did very well given the wholesale Media attacks, even got a few newspapers to change endorsements from 2008.

19 posted on 11/08/2012 5:37:00 AM PST by BilLies (The Progressive Liberal American Press will be the death of freedom in this country.)
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All of Romney’s negatives, real or perceived, still don’t add up to making Obama a rational choice given his record. If you are looking for somebody who can’t be smeared or demonized by other side then good luck, even Christ had to put up with that.

The vote that took place is an indictment of the American people, not Mitt.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 5:59:56 AM PST by Grig
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Anne Coulter is everything which is wrong with the GOP.

Everything.

We need another Party.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 6:13:10 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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The Romney I saw in the debates, especially the first one, could have been a great president. What killed his chances were the negative campaigning that portrayed him as a monster, the complicit media that served as willing messengers for Obama's lies and distortions while covering up his disasters like Benghazi and a miserable Romney campaign. I live next to the battleground state of Iowa and our local TV and radio cover a large part of that market. I did not hear or see a single Romney ad until about two weeks before the election.

The GOP leadership should have had their convention far earlier to end the internal spats of the primaries and to vet the primary candidates better. I'm sorry but Michelle Bachman was a terrible candidate and Herman Cain's checkered past should have been know early on and used quietly removed him from the race. Their continued presence in the primaries along with Newt's vacillation and Gov. Perry's clumsy missteps kept the media circus going and fractured the party. Who ever were the idiots that agreed to the debates with the likes of Candy Cowley as moderator also need to be sacked. We saw how effective the debates were when Jim Lehrer, to his credit, stood back and let the candidates spar on the issues. The subsequent debates were fiascoes because the liberal moderators ran the debates to favor Obama or Biden.

I believe a conservative candidate still has a chance to be POTUS as even the fools who reelected Obama will eventually become disillusioned as the country crumbles under Obama and their promises of free stuff don't materialize.

29 posted on 11/08/2012 6:59:44 AM PST by The Great RJ
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She is right - the 10/10 voters hoping for a perfect candidate are killing us vs the hoardes of locusts, parasites, and welfare thugs marchin to the polls.


31 posted on 11/08/2012 7:04:43 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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Don’t blame Romney. Blame Ann Coulter and the GOP royalty who forced him on us.


32 posted on 11/08/2012 7:23:23 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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What a load of crap. AC has NEVER been good at predicting election outcomes or proposing candidates but this pathetic refusal to admit her stupidity makes her look even worse.


33 posted on 11/08/2012 7:23:43 AM PST by free me
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I think there is a lot of meat in this article, and much that conservatives could learn from. But, I actually go a bit farther than Ann. What is not being recognized by many in the conservative world is that demographics are changing in America. I don’t mean just that Hispanics are moving here and so on, but that the ideological leaning of the nation is shifting as it does everywhere all the time. This must be considered if the GOP, or any conservative party, would hope to win national elections.

Some 60 years ago or so segregation was an acceptable policy for many Americans, and politicians often fought to maintain it. However after just a decade or so things had changed for the mass of people in the nation and any politicians still pushing that ideology appeared absurd and evil to those people. Anyone publicly endorsing laws against interracial marriage in the 80s would never be able to get the votes of suburban middle America which are necessary to win a national office. America would not promote or accept that idea anymore, and any practical definition of conservative could no longer include racial segregation, regardless of how much it may have been a traditional value for many. That generation of voters simply could not accept any definition of conservative that included telling people what color people they could marry, and so conservatism eventually moved forward. This is necessary and essential in a changing demographic if one actually wants to win elections, rather than just losing and being able to proudly trumpet one’s ideological purity.

The same is true for the conservative movement today, and many in the movement just don’t want to admit it. Conservatism cannot be relevant if it can be caricatured as nothing but a bunch of people trying to pass laws forcing people to follow Victorian era morality constraints. And while Romney probably did a reasonable job in staying on the economy overall, that ugly image of the ‘morality police’ was used effectively by our opponents against us and will be for the future if we don’t find a way to change our image. We have to see the writing on the wall and learn to focus on issues which we can actually gain support and create change. It doesn’t matter how much we personally want a more moral society, we simply aren’t going to get laws forcing others to live our way. And more to the point, we aren’t going to be elected at all if we constantly push that agenda, and that means not getting any of our ideas across, including saving this failing economy.


34 posted on 11/08/2012 7:30:33 AM PST by cothrige
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Anne Coulter pimped on conservatives a candidate who couldn’t win.

Will she give us Christie Christie in 2016? 3,2,1

Because if she does, time to begin planning the next defeat...


36 posted on 11/08/2012 8:02:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I like a band that sells NO albums because it proves they have too much integrity to sell out.

Say what you will about Coulter.

But FR has many people who are like this, and they know who they are, and so do you.

They are the serial posters who infest so many threads with their own ultra-distilled version of "conservatism" which excludes the opinions of 95%+ of the American electorate.

They are the right wing Pauline Kaels (How could Obama have won? Nobody I know voted for him??) who desire FR to be an echo chamber for their views and their views only.

And they are never going to take back power from the Dems, and I'm not sure they really care.

.....steps down from soapbox, dons firesuit.....

37 posted on 11/08/2012 8:02:58 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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