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To: OneWingedShark
Your points were valid at some point (when the benevolence of the faithful cared for the needy) but that became passé as the government crowded God out of the equation.

Remember, prayer and bible reading were no longer tolerated in school and I dare say, many here on FR don't even remember when bible reading and prayers were part of the school day.

So, we have bibles and prayers out of school. Then, LBJ gave us "the Great Society" and bingo, caring for the indigent became a function of the state, butt out churches and synagogues. Next came Supreme Court rulings telling hospitals that they had to care for anyone who walked in their doors, goodbye charity hospitals, again supported by the various churches. Since most hospitals were then run by religious organizations, they could no longer afford to treat everyone without third party (read government) intervention.

Then another liberal Lion (Teddy Kennedy) gave us HMOs and squeezed out smaller private institutions in favor of mega-insurance companies, and on, and on, it went.

Not long thereafter, religious institutions began looking to government for "contributions" and once that camel's nose was in the door, government had taken over most, if not all, charitable functions and kicked out God in the equation!

30 posted on 11/07/2012 9:30:49 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: zerosix
Your points were valid at some point (when the benevolence of the faithful cared for the needy) but that became passé as the government crowded God out of the equation.

That's just the point; the church can crowd the government out by doing the job better than some far-off & distant authority ever could.

Remember, prayer and bible reading were no longer tolerated in school and I dare say, many here on FR don't even remember when bible reading and prayers were part of the school day.

Retaliate by taking your kids out of government control: private school or homeschool. Who's the parent, you or the government?

So, we have bibles and prayers out of school. Then, LBJ gave us "the Great Society" and bingo, caring for the indigent became a function of the state, butt out churches and synagogues. Next came Supreme Court rulings telling hospitals that they had to care for anyone who walked in their doors, goodbye charity hospitals, again supported by the various churches. Since most hospitals were then run by religious organizations, they could no longer afford to treat everyone without third party (read government) intervention. Then another liberal Lion (Teddy Kennedy) gave us HMOs and squeezed out smaller private institutions in favor of mega-insurance companies, and on, and on, it went.

Yes, but there are things we can do. In particular there are two woefully underused laws, felonies: Conspiracy against rights and Deprivation of rights under color of law which are proof against the supposed immunity of lawmakers, judges, prosecutors, government officials/agents. If they want to make things legal-battle, the religious can do legal: we've had four thousand years of practice.

Not long thereafter, religious institutions began looking to government for "contributions" and once that camel's nose was in the door, government had taken over most, if not all, charitable functions and kicked out God in the equation!

And? What's the solution? you, and me, personally going to God: screw them and their godless equation -- heaven is where God is, and He says that he is with me and will never leave or forsake me. -- IOW, I have heaven already, why should I care what impotent man has to say when that man is clearly outside lawful authority?

34 posted on 11/07/2012 9:47:19 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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