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To: sickoflibs; Perdogg; LS; BillyBoy; EternalVigilance; BlackElk; PhilCollins; Impy; ...
Note yours truly predicted this fiasco months and months ago. A dangerous and execrable tyrant, one of the most easily defeated given the disasters on his watch, but yet who did the GOP nominate ? Willard. Someone who would say anything to get elected, and just about did, and for which he believed in nothing that the Conservative movement stands for. A rank opportunist who used his wealth and with the help of the gutless party liberal establishment, all but chased out any viable contenders.

A rich, country-clubber, flip-flopping failed Socialist Governor, one for whom he wouldn't hesistate to go nuclear on Republicans (like McCain), but could barely do so against a Democrat. I've hesistated to definitively call them "ringers", but frankly, it's about as damn close as you can get. I denounced such a showdown as an IL-style "Combiner" fix. Whomever got in, nothing would really change and the same corrupt bipartisan cabal runs the show.

You can see how sickened and frustrated I am that I saw this train wreck coming and screamed like hell to put a stop to it and why I was so big on replacing Willard with Walker. Playing Mr. Nice Guy doesn't work, you either annihilate your opponent, given the stakes, or don't bother to run. Every day we lose this country more and more, even when we score wins here and there (such as in 2010), they seem more Pyrrhic than anything else. When are we going to realize the opposition, both inside our party and without, have a truly nefarious agenda. It's about raw power, and if it means bleeding this country dry, overturning the rule of law and our Constitutional foundations, that's what they'll do, and have already done so.

Without these leftist parasites and debasers of our remarkable nation over the past century+, who knows how much futher along we would be culturally, economically, spiritually, etc., today. They don't want us to become a better country, their utopia is the stuff of nightmares and perpetual dependence. Think "Oceania" in "1984." An upper class of political elites running the whole show.

Take a look at many cities today where they've had unencumbered control for decades and tell me that it doesn't resemble a similar nightmare -- with just one minor difference, there's no "middle" of the pyramid, for whom the protagonist in "1984" belonged to. You have the political class, insulated from much of the reality they've created, usually well-to-do (with their gains made from usually illicit means), and then the great parasite/feral/criminal class, whom have been like that for at least several generations (post-1950s).

They have long forgotten the stability of the two-parent household, the biblical values of thrift and hard work, no use for such things as ethics and morality that make for stable community. They are bribed with crumbs (albeit expensive crumbs), kept perpetually aggrieved by the political class exploiters, and if there are any that start to question things (a la Winston), well... you know what happens with them.

All in all, what leftism has enabled en masse from the late 19th/early 20th century onward. People like Zero, the culmination of this horrific nightmare. Not the triumph of a color-blind society, but the spawn of a very race-conscious debased utopian horror, elected by a collection of those urban ferals/parasites, moronic halfwits who get their news from late night comedians and music stars, union thugs, group rights gangsters, overeducated elitists and other debauched dingbats.

Can we beat them ? Yes. But we need to stop listening to the namby-pamby turds like Rove (who has a nasty habit of backing liberal country-clubbers and senile imbeciles while railing against movement Conservatives) and fight like hell against the party establishment, whom frankly don't seem to give a damn one way or another if they win the general election. We need bonafide fighters who recognize we are in a war for our very civilization, our very way of life and existence. These are the people we need to get behind and all else can take a hike. If we don't do it, and now, there will be precious little left. Anyone want to fathom where we'll be in another 20 years, 30, if we continue on the course we're on ? Remember where we were 30 years ago. Imagining a future like this during Reagan's first term is like a terrible nightmare. Unfortunately, it's now the reality. It's time to say, "This is enough ! We're taking OUR country back."

39 posted on 11/07/2012 9:30:54 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Gilbo_3

I saw it too and warned as I did in 2008 but the Koolaid train here threatened to destroy everything in their way.

We had to say Mitt was Reagan or we all die. they said.

Gilb stayed with me though, voice of reason :)


40 posted on 11/07/2012 9:57:08 PM PST by sickoflibs (How could this happen? Romney going to win big. The polls were lies too)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Your essay: you are much more optimistic than me. It reads like a description of where we were in 1993. Please tell us what happened, now that it is 20 years further down the road.


50 posted on 11/08/2012 3:17:48 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (campaigning for local conservatives)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Sorry DJ. Mitt was a vastly better candidate than anyone expected; and he seemed to steadily grow into conservatism the longer he campaigned. If anyone thinks Palin or any other magical candidate would have brought out more voters than they repelled, let me know what you're smokin.

This blame game misses the point that just as capitalism was from 1920 to about 1980, conservatism is entering a period where it is uncool, hard, and generally unpopular. That doesn't mean we change the message, but like Fredrich Von Hayek in the 30s, we must prepare for a very long haul until the cycle turns.

However ranting about the moral condition, even if correct, doesn't address the solution. Simply saying, "we need mor stable families," or "we have to end the gimme mentality" aren't strategies.

We erroneously took the 2010 victories as evidence of a larger sentiment. Now, it looks as though those were the ceiling that can be reached in a non-presidential election (I.e. 40% of the regular turnout). Also, the 2010 elections came immediately after Obamacare. But 2 years later, that anger subsided. I could see it---but ignored it as most here did---when I spoke to these groups and they grew smaller. More important, they grew older.

Likewise, no amount of ranting about he moral correctness of conservatism is going to attract the majority of these younger people who are the energy of any movement. And four years ago when I saw how uniformly these college student and 20s disliked Palin and how even this could be observed at CPAC (despite her popular speech there) it finally dawned on me that they are gong to have to com to the realization on their own that not only is conservatism correct, but it is cool for civilization.

52 posted on 11/08/2012 4:22:43 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; Perdogg; LS; BillyBoy; EternalVigilance; BlackElk; PhilCollins; ...
“Can we beat them ? Yes.”

Uh, no. It's the demographics, Sgt. Vincennes. The illegals, fags, feminazis, junkies, drunks, permanent malcontents, etc. with their hands out outnumber us and that’s it.

What’s the solution? Secession? Didn't work so well the last time that was tried. Besides, the West Coast is lost, so unless a current “Blue” state allows a portion of “Red” to break off, there's no Pacific access (Alaska notwithstanding). And Florida and Virginia ain't what they used to be either.

We've lost; game over.

Ronald Reagan would not win a national election today. I did not make a typo. Tuesday night confirmed that the USA is dead and decomposing. Now the rate of decay will be more rapid.

54 posted on 11/08/2012 5:23:52 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (The autopsy will show that this nation committed suicide.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Impy; sickoflibs; LS; BillyBoy; EternalVigilance; BlackElk; ...
Then the question I keep asking and no one wants to answer is who then?

Who is the next Reagan? I want to know now, not in August of 2016.

Palin and Ryan are now losing VeePee candidates. Only one has been elected and that was FDR. Remember Nixon was 2-0 in Veepee races therefore not a losing VeePee candidate.

Who has the right combination of skill and ideology to pull us out of the fire?

57 posted on 11/08/2012 5:34:51 AM PST by Perdogg
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