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1 posted on 11/07/2012 4:10:34 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

go look at big latino families... there will be a swishy...one in the group.....


2 posted on 11/07/2012 4:13:53 PM PST by ptsal (E)
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To: neverdem

“a more generous safety net” Exactly the reason they voted for Obama. That is just a not so subtle way of saying “More Free Stuff”.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 4:16:50 PM PST by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: neverdem

Heather ain’t too smart. Surrender monkey.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 4:17:23 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: neverdem

Let me see now, -——— ??? To merit the electoral approval of “hispanics,” however they may be defined, Repubs must cease fretting about unrestricted flow of “hispanics” across our borders.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:44 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: neverdem

Too many Republicans intentionally never wanted to do anything about controlling the border because too many business constituencies wanted the cheap labor. Now that same cheap labor is voting for candidates who will implement regulations and laws that will overcome any labor cost savings to the extent of making commerce cost prohibitive in the 1st place. I’m an upperlow to lower middle income person myself and even I saw this scenario coming years ago, but GOP big whigs couldn’t figure it out. Go figure.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:58 PM PST by MachIV
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To: neverdem

We had Trick or Trunk at church. Trick or treating candy distribution out of our cars which were decorated. All of the White Catholics came early and brought the candy. Not one Mexican family was there. Then when the event started, all the mexicans showed up with all of their kids and got all the candy. I learned a lot at that even. A lot of those mexicans could have brought something but they didn’t they showed up and just took. OK?


8 posted on 11/07/2012 4:18:58 PM PST by DOGHEAD
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To: neverdem

Apparently, the Univision reveal of Fast & Furious decimating Latinos had no impact.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 4:20:27 PM PST by mikrofon (+ Prayers for America +)
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To: neverdem
Proof that illegal hispanics now rule CA - while every imaginable tax increase passed a proposition that would have enabled auto insurance companies to offer discounted rates to policy holders who've carried coverage for a certain period of time failed to pass.
11 posted on 11/07/2012 4:21:57 PM PST by skeeter
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To: neverdem

I doubt this is why Romney barely won NC, and lost Michigan and PA. Maybe it explains Colorado and Nevada.

That being said, Hispanics are NOT republicans waiting to be asked to join. They’re poorer, resistant to assimilation, and want plenty of social services.

The GOP will probably cave for amnesty, thinking it’ll get them cred. All it will do is legalize millions of new democrat voters, and further decay.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 4:24:36 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: neverdem

The people that lost us this election were the libertarian and third party voters, and I doubt that they were Hispanics.

If we had had a stronger approach, I think we would have attracted more Hispanics, who, like anybody else, appreciate somebody who is confident in their message. The GOP barely even had a message, since Romney’s advisors had decided that he should present himself as just a better dressed, more polite and more successful version of Obama.

But the people who lost it for us in Florida and Ohio were the (mostly middle-aged white male) libertarians who voted for one or another of their flaky candidates because they were too pure to vote GOP. They forgot that the candidate is only a part of it, and that what they would have gotten would have been an entire change at the top that might actually have brought in some people who sympathized with them. But if you want to look at a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot group, look at the third party voters and not the unconvinced and unwooed Hispanic voters.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 4:25:49 PM PST by livius
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The demographic changes set into motion by official and de facto immigration policy favoring low-skilled over high-skilled immigrants...and ironically that policy is often supported specifically by Republicans - close relative who's been in farming all his life and is a good conservative in so many ways strongly supports having Mexican farmworkers - legal or not, he doesn't care and looks the other way - available to work in the fields - I suspect a lot of Republican farmers and contractors are about the same.....
17 posted on 11/07/2012 4:27:51 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: neverdem

(generally speaking... brought to you by 70+/95+ homogenous voting blocks)

The GOP has about as much of a chance of courting Hispanic votes as they do Black votes - they are a homogenous group bound together first and foremost by race, perhaps second only to government goodies. They cannot and will never be swayed by ideas. I don’t believe it is possible at this point. And that is all conservatives have to offer - ideas (not goodies).

Nonetheless, I will not abandon my conservative principles. I will only focus them, locally. Family first, then local elections. The nation took such a hard-left turn that the USA isn’t recognizable. And sitting out federal elections will have little to no consequence in my life. In a post-Constitutional America, Putin has as much power to sway the U.S. as the punks who live across the street from me.

But I’ll be damned if I let them into my home!


18 posted on 11/07/2012 4:30:47 PM PST by kropcke
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To: neverdem

Mexican immigrants still hold to the world view of Mexico, where the rich really DO conspire to keep hard working men down, and where the color of your skin CAN keep you from a good job. That history of class oppression is the greatest obstacle we face in convincing many Hispanics to vote for conservatives.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 4:33:41 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit.)
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To: neverdem

More progressive taxation will not bring in more revenue if people adapt. If a sizable portion of the electorate Goes Galt, there will be less revenue. It is time to stop the motor of the world to quote Ayn Rand, at least for the United States. We need to try and brace up Boehner (probably impossible) to not agree to a debt ceiling increase and no deal involving tax increases in any deal to stop the sequestration scheduled for the end of the year. The US will not recover from its present infection without a lot of tears and trouble. It is time to take it to the wall.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 4:34:32 PM PST by Truth29
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To: neverdem

They don’t vote Republican for the same reason all Dem “identity groups” don’t: they’re shortsighted.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 4:34:39 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: neverdem

What we need is a purge of the xenophobe wing of the GOP, and a very vocal change of policy regarding immigration reform.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 4:39:07 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (Comprehensive Immigration Reform NOW!)
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To: neverdem

for the umpteenth time, there are no such thing as “Hispanics” or “Latino”. I write as someone who speaks fluent Spanish and has constant contact with people from all over Latin America.
I am surprised that MacDonald is so ignorant. In California, the majority of immigrants from Latin America are Mexican. They are the absolute lowest rung of that society. Their major interest is in arning money and sending it to their family of 42 people in Mexcio. The person on the thread who commented that they can’t think is completely right. They are guided by voices - on Spanish-language tv and radio - that tells them what to do. They have no loyalty to or interest in this country, just what they can get. They will never vote Republican, because they have no concept of the individual - they come from a country of no real laws, where you survive by being part ofa clan. We should get rid of them, except the ones who have made a contribution by having a restaurant. I curse the “businessmen” who brought them here - or allowed them to flood in unchecked - in order to suppress American wages. I curse them.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 4:55:13 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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This is an excellent read with lots to think about.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 4:56:54 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: neverdem
With all due respect, “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you” strikes me as an even more ribald joke in most, if not in fact all, of American Hispanics’ ancestral countries than it is here. So my answer to Mr. Echeveste when he says American Hispanics understand that government has a role in helping people would be, “Dude. Seriously?
49 posted on 11/07/2012 5:10:17 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: neverdem

They don’t need too. Their votes are already being used.


58 posted on 11/07/2012 5:27:47 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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