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Our Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves.
1 posted on 11/07/2012 1:52:38 PM PST by schaef21
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To: schaef21

Adequate or not the people have voted to deep six it. What legitimate authority does the Constitution have without the support of the people?


2 posted on 11/07/2012 1:56:03 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: schaef21

Obama may be and probably is punishment to America for 75,000,000+ abortions.. and other crimes..

Just a symptom of moral degradation.. that America deserves..


3 posted on 11/07/2012 1:56:06 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: schaef21
I woke up thinking about this quote from Thomas Paine in 1776 -

"THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. "

4 posted on 11/07/2012 1:59:02 PM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: schaef21

Not just The Founding Fathers. My parents who were part of The Greatest Generation and both of whom served in WWII, wouldn’t recognize this Country.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 2:00:23 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil or Evil Doers)
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To: schaef21

That one sentence speaks to the truth of our situation. Whatever we are now, or will become in the United States, will never be what we once were. That age has passed....a new people have been elected with new & different ideas & ways that our founding Fathers did not share or approve of. Our job is to now find out how to survive in this new world.This post-constitutional America.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 2:01:44 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: schaef21

Here’s one: “The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity” -Yeats


7 posted on 11/07/2012 2:15:23 PM PST by MNDude
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To: schaef21

Half a million more votes in the right places and we would have had it. A turnout like 2004 and we would have had it. We had the tools and the numbers, but too many sat this one out.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 2:16:14 PM PST by Snake65
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To: schaef21

And here’s another prescient and prophetic quote from John Adams:

“But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it…” John Adams to wife Abigail.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 2:30:10 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: schaef21; kingattax; CAluvdubya; Ms. AntiFeminazi
Our souls are being tried for a purpose we can not see right now.

We have to believe that God has a reason for allowing this man to be president for another four years, as painful as it is.

Look at it this way - if we are upset, imagine how God must feel having been treated so shabbily by Obama.

Jarrett and BO speak of revenge, but it is the Almighty Himself who will get the last and final crack at vengeance.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 2:45:44 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: schaef21; Salvation; NYer; Huber; aberaussie; Aeronaut; aliquando; AlternateViewpoint; ...
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. " John Adams

IF this election was the referendum on Judeo-Christian values as many of our finest had cast it; then the devastating results should cause great reflection in people of faith.

We should be repentant of our deficient catechesis; of failing to "commend to others the faith that is within us", to borrow a phrase from one prayer of confession.

And while our catechesis might still be adequate in "red counties" otherwise known as "flyover country" those same bi-colored maps reveal an utter failure of evangelism in our coastal cities.

So let us take yesterday's failure as tomorrow's challenge: to impart "the faith once delivered to the saints" to those regions where to many. God's Holy Name is but a curse word.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 2:51:52 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: schaef21
We need to hear more from the Founders..

There are few statements, I'll bet, from our Founders -- and the Civil War era -- that do not apply today.

From Patrick Henry

The questing before [you] is one of awful moment to this country . . . in proportion to the magnitude of the subject [there must] be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that [you] can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should [you] keep back [your] opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, [you] should consider [your]self as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which [is] above all earthly kings . . . Are [you] disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? . . . whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, [you must be] willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 3:02:20 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: schaef21

The Constitution is more than adequate thank you very much. It is the electorate the people who are lacking. It is our job to protect the Constitution and educate the electorate. Now get busy please and quit saying silly things


16 posted on 11/07/2012 3:02:57 PM PST by Nifster
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To: schaef21

The Divided States of America:

“The United States Constitution has proved itself the most marvelously elastic compilation of rules of government ever written.” - Franklin D. Roosevelt


18 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:19 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: schaef21
" Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. " John Adams

Excellent choice for a post -- and true.

20 posted on 11/07/2012 3:41:10 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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