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To: ansel12; ksen; shhrubbery!; IronJack
17 posted on Wed Nov 07 2012 16:26:33 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by ansel12: “What are the highlights of what pulled you left?”

I'm also interested, KSen, especially because you're apparently either a Calvinist or a former Calvinist.

For IronJack and shhrubbery!, KSen seems legit. He's been around since the beginning of Free Republic. I do run into ex-conservatives fairly often. I spend a significant amount of time dealing with a couple of such people. Let's not forget that people do sometimes change the wrong way... Hillary was once a Republican, after all, and a Goldwater supporter. That means she was once to the right of Mitt Romney and his father who were Goldwater opponents!

What I don't run into is a lot of self-described political liberals who are theologically conservative, although I do run into a fair number of libertarians in my circles.

I read ksen’s answer, here:

24 posted on Wed Nov 07 2012 16:37:57 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time) by ksen:
“1) still having to use HTML code in @^#$$@# 2012 on a messageboard!!
2) healthcare reform
3) iraq
4) income equality issues
5) civil rights
6) republicans getting way too close to wanting to institute virtual theocracy”

I assume #1 is a joke... but Free Republic seems to do just fine in its stats even with a simple system of input and display. It is consistently ranked as one of the top conservative websites in readership.

I'd be interested in exploring #5 and #6 — i.e., why you believe modern conservatives still have a civil rights problem and why you believe, given the nomination of McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012, that Republicans are dominated by social conservatives. I frankly wish social conservatives were much stronger in the Republican Party.

80 posted on 11/16/2012 6:08:38 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
I'm also interested, KSen, especially because you're apparently either a Calvinist or a former Calvinist.

I still believe T.U.L.I.P. is accurate and consider myself a Calvinist.

What I don't run into is a lot of self-described political liberals who are theologically conservative, although I do run into a fair number of libertarians in my circles.

Pleased to meet you darrellmaurina! :handshake:

If you want to start a thread on this particular subject go ahead and ping me to it. I'd be happy to talk to you about it.

I read ksen’s answer, here:

“1) still having to use HTML code in @^#$$@# 2012 on a messageboard!!
2) healthcare reform
3) iraq
4) income equality issues
5) civil rights
6) republicans getting way too close to wanting to institute virtual theocracy”

I assume #1 is a joke... but Free Republic seems to do just fine in its stats even with a simple system of input and display. It is consistently ranked as one of the top conservative websites in readership.

Yes, #1 was a joke. ;)

I'd be interested in exploring #5 and #6 — i.e., why you believe modern conservatives still have a civil rights problem and why you believe, given the nomination of McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012, that Republicans are dominated by social conservatives.

McCain and Romney may not have been socially conservative but the base they have to appeal to are most certainly socially conservative. And even though people as a group can be pretty dumb they are not dumb enough to not see through the candidate to the base that is his power and will have his ear if elected.

I frankly wish social conservatives were much stronger in the Republican Party.

Why?

83 posted on 11/16/2012 8:26:59 AM PST by ksen
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