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To: mojito

One doubts it was “analysis”.

Months from now, I bet it will have been multiple voting,
felon voting, illegal alien voting, and the dumping
of military and Republican votes in gutter.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 1:26:07 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Diogenesis

” felon voting, illegal alien voting, and the dumping
of military and Republican votes in gutter.”

Yep


6 posted on 11/07/2012 1:34:03 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker ((God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.))
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To: Diogenesis
"One doubts it was “analysis”."

Your point makes sense Diogenesis, but is not the “Occam's” choice. You are paid to analyze a sample of earth from the ground near a chemical plant. Your client asks for your results but you explain that no sample has been delivered. You are told to deliver the sample based upon what you think is reasonable for the region, but no sample is delivered, and you will not be paid without a report. That process was my profession a decade or two ago, but the samples were painstakingly audited at each stage, locked boxes for samples, no human intervention after collection of the sample, redundant databases, etc. etc.

Today absentee ballots are counted mostly by SEIU employees, in rooms guarded by the SEIU. There is no traceable path from a marked ballot to a reported count - by design. Several decades ago the state-by-state tallies were counted by a private corporation, Voter News Service, owned jointly by the major news networks. Do you think the any government agency would be reporting counts in real time?

Without trustworthy data the prognostication about the meaning of elections is meaningless. This is not conspiracy theorizing, this is engineering. Reliable data transfer is well understood, and our voting system, ignoring dead or illegal voters, is absolutely, and intentionally, unaudited. It is a process maintained because if the public understood that representation was a myth, they would be less likely to produce to support the public sector. The public sector, government and its dependents, long ago decided it needed assurances for its survival, since government dependents produce nothing other nations or individuals would willingly pay for, except for our military, and Saudi Arabia is certainly paying us protection money, albeit money collected from our taxpayers who buy oil while this government prevents us from eliminating our dependence on Saudi oil..

The old mechanism, still used in many countries, is simple and ingenious. Precincts were sized to allow a local count after closing of the polls; 300 to 1000 ballots can be hand counted in a few hours. Paper ballots were counted in the presence of representative of each party, each resident s from the neighborhood of the precinct. Ballots were locked and transported to a guarded repository until confirmation of the election results. The count from the local precinct workers was the count submitted to attorneys general. Locked boxes were only unlocked in the case of a challenge.

Today, absentee ballots are counted by SEIU employees, who are often guarded by SEIU guards who, legally or not, prevent observers from even entering the counting rooms. Government workers were previously helpless to protect their jobs from voters. Now, they report the results that guarantee their jobs.

With computers, whose source code has been rendered secret by the courts, a selection at a touch screen or a black line read by a computer scanner is simply a charade. Naive voters assume their selection has meaning, but precinct workers are no more than ushers in a theater. Voting is disconnected from voters at the front end. No one at a precinct has any idea what becomes of those few bytes presumably thrown into a pile of votes for one candidate or a measure. That blind trust has allowed the corruption of our republic. How can anyone believe that Holder, Obama, Ayers, Jarrett, all with open communist parents and in-laws, would not use the fatally flawed election system to achieve the goals they honestly proclaim?

One can only guess that governments assess what they can get away with and adjust the reported counts to affect public policy. That is an opinion, That votes are not reliable data is undeniable. Some precincts may have integrity, but without the ability to verify anything, voting is meaningless.

People must make decisions to protect themselves and their families. That is the simple reason that voting has been corrupted. Government, the individuals employed by it, want what everyone wants, a good life and security for themselves and their children. Government entrepreneurs are using their regulatory and confiscatory power to make their lives better, at the expense of the private sector. Until more people insist upon verifiable voting, we will migrate more and more to dictatorial socialism. Ironically, besides Israel, Mexico and Spain have verifiable elections. There are probably other nations that do, but so did the US fifty or sixty years ago.

Citizens are wasting time and energy attempting to interpret the results of a fictitious election process. Those who determined what would be reported have probably established results designed to shape the opinions, to prepare the populace to accept their plans. We may never confirm that the state-run media are fed the interpretations the government wants. Media figures will not usually confess to reporting opinions fed to them. That is all conjecture, but the complete lack of an audit trail, the complete lack of verifiability of our voting process is a certainty. One may need the confidence from having tried to design verifiable systems to know that, but most can understand that being able to look the precinct workers from your neighborhood in the eye when you cast the paper ballot they will count later in the evening depends upon the human instinct to trust neighbors. The truth today is that the SEIU employee may or may not choose to dispose of your ballot that may cost him or her the income that feeds his family. You will never know. These Acorn (yes, they are still there) and SEIU people are government dependents you will never see. It is about trust, and government doesn't trust you to vote to keep providing the resources it redistributes.

28 posted on 11/07/2012 3:08:26 PM PST by Spaulding
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