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But Romney did not do enough better with these groups to win. So what are some of the reasons this happened:

1. Incumbents are hard to beat. The public liked the guy to begin with and some will not want to change.

2. Natural disasters cause people to feel uncertain and in times of uncertainty people become more conservative and go with the guy they know.

3. Romney failed at turnout.

Certainly there was nothing Romney could have done about incumbency. Also nothing Romney could have done about superstorm Christy/Sandy. Certainly Romney could have turned out the vote.

Romney apparently thought he had it won and was talking about working with the other side, while Obama was appealing to his base. Romney followed conventional wisdom and that may well have tipped the balance.

1 posted on 11/07/2012 10:51:44 AM PST by JLS
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The GOP ran into the Obama campaign buzz saw. That's it.

Voter Id laws work, there is less votes. The Dems won't get these numbers again for a while.

The GOP needs to work on attracting younger voters. All is not lost.

2 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:12 AM PST by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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I think you are on to something about the Great Storm of 2012. It was an October Surprise that no one could anticipate.

Makes you wonder whose side God is on?

Is it a chastisement?


3 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:20 AM PST by miserare
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Drudge is showing Romney behind Obama by 2 1/2 million votes. That’s pretty decisive.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 10:57:32 AM PST by driftless2
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Romney underperforming McCain overall tells me that there is something we are missing. All I can think of is the Mormon thing. Romney ran more to the right than most expected after he won the nomination, but a lot of the Bush 2004 voters STILL stayed home, along with some of the MCCAIN voters...and Obama didn’t get them.

Romney ran a campaign TEN TIMES better than McCain, and McCain is hardly any more conservative than Romney.....I am struggling to explain that one. All I can come up with is the Mormon thing. Iowa, Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin...lower totals in North Carolina..Virginia...

A decent sized section of Protestants really do view the Mormons as a cult. I just thought the economy and the anti Obama view would outweigh that. Maybe it didn’t?


5 posted on 11/07/2012 10:58:53 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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Elections have been close like this for quite some time now. Doesn’t mean too much.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 10:59:43 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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287,301 in 4 states

Certainly within the range that could've included VOTE FRAUD by numerous means, not the least of which could be hacked voting machines.

7 posted on 11/07/2012 11:00:05 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Never Underestimate the Power of Evil)
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However, Obama DID win.

And the demographic groups won’t get any better for Republicans.

No Republican will get this close to being elected until the coming catastrophic economic collapse.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 11:02:16 AM PST by brownsfan (It's over.)
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in times of uncertainty people become more conservative and go with the guy they know

The irony is not lost here…

9 posted on 11/07/2012 11:02:52 AM PST by mikrofon (+ Prayers for America +)
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I am reminded of the South Carolina Primary. Was that a clue that Romney would not have the “it” factor?


11 posted on 11/07/2012 11:05:01 AM PST by glm
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People here and on the radio need to quit talking like all is lost.

All is not lost.. after all we still have sunshine and butterflies.

Thanks for the pep-talk, but what's happening to America is nothing less hideous disaster. It would have been such, even if Romney would have squeaked by last night. We simply can't function as a nation when half the population are functional morons.

REAL morons. Literally functional morons.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 11:10:09 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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In any lost election it is easy to do a what-if and contrive another outcome.

Citing 300k is just cherry picking in my opinion as we lost the popular vote by 2.5 million and while we all understand that it is the electoral college process that is the actual instrument that elects the President, it is a reflection of voters in each state electing those electors by their choice for President.

When we can’t get a majority of the people to not elect the most socialist incompetent performer with a bad track record, we have to acknowledge that the clowns have control of the fun house.

Not only did Obama get a majority of electoral votes, he got a solid majority of popular votes across the nation. Not only did Romney loose on both, he pulled less voters than McCain! Think of that — less than McCain the guy that channeled Richard Nixon in a lot of minds — Romney couldn’t pull as well as McCain even after the country knew what a disaster Obama was from a record of four years.

Our countrymen are no longer made up in the majority with people that think like we and our ancestors thought, lived and believed — that is what has been solidly shown by this election regardless of Romney’s warts. That is a sobering thought.

We could previously look at the subversion of our culture and country and see it as being instituted by a malicous minority of leftist activists. Now we must realize that they have done their work, their brainwashing, their re-education and we are the minority while our countrymen have chosen to go down the rabbit hole of history.

Previously we could look at ourselves as the protectors and rescue force, with all the associated self congratulations — now we are the forces trying to sell Change — we are outside the majority and we must consider that our countrymen have to want what we offer.


20 posted on 11/07/2012 11:31:38 AM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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"Early voting gave Dems weeks to ship low info voters to polls." - Dan Gainor (Media Research Council)
21 posted on 11/07/2012 11:37:00 AM PST by StAnDeliver (/)
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Great points. completely agree. People here need to grow a set. I mean, I know its not all roses either, but this emoting is rather, I dunno, liberal...


23 posted on 11/07/2012 11:50:53 AM PST by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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Romney lost to Obama by less than 300,000 votes of out almost 117,000,000...so where were these 300,000 potential voters? - don't blame it on Romney, on the 'rats, on Sandy - they were lazy, ignorant, too offended by something or other - whatever, the loss is squarely on the shoulders of those who could have and should have voted - the woman in front of me when I was signing in to vote was being pushed in a wheelchair by an attendant. She had only leg but she had managed to get to the polling place and in that she was black, I have a hunch who she voted for - 'rats want to win, half the 'pubs want to play who can be more offended than who.......
32 posted on 11/07/2012 12:46:27 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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Turnout went down about 10%, by about 12 million votes. 80% of those votes came from Obama’s 2008 totals, the other 20% from McCain’s.

That is a bizarre result. As has been reported, I think a president hasn’t won reelection with less vote than he was elected with in 40 years or so.

I don’t think the conventional analysis of who “won” applies in this case. People abandoned both parties this time, but by a 4-to-1 margin they abandoned Obama more.

Granted, the huge base Obama started with was the fundamental problem. It seems people now believe Obama is as likely to fix the economy as they thought McCain was in 2008. But they remained even more unconvinced that the Republicans could do it either. The biggest failure of Romney seems to be his failure to respond to Obama’s totally dishonest attacks that Romney would “continue the Bush policies that caused the crisis.”


36 posted on 11/07/2012 5:57:10 PM PST by JediJones (Vote NO on Proposition Zero! Tuesday, November 6th!)
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