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The Tea Party Got It Right, Mitt Got It Wrong
FrontPage Magazine ^ | November 7, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 11/07/2012 5:32:07 AM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson

Now it’s time to get behind Sarah. Mitt declared so early, then a mess of people joined in, to boot. It was a messy primary.

Romney should have spoken up in support for Mourdock and Akin, told the public that we are all free to hold differing opinions, but those opinions don’t necessarily carry over into law. Instead, they disenfranchised them. It gave many a reason to pass, who might’ve supported them, otherwise. That probably hurt Romney, as well. Sent a message that real conservatives would not be welcome at the table.

I think the republican party shot itself in the foot. By not getting behind true conservatives, it left the door open for its demise. It’s time to start a real conservative party...call it the Tea Party or the Reagan Conservatives (would probably pick off conservative democrats this way). We need to start right now.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 5:53:57 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: SJackson
At the moment Obama's popular vote is still several million short of "w''s last election in 2004. Actually, he's short of McCain's vote totals. As is Romney.

RACE TO THE BOTTOM; FEWER VOTES IN 2012 THAN 2008; FEWER VOTES IN 2012 THAN 2004 ~

Fortunately we still hold the House and something like 3/4 of the State legislatures. And those facts will become far more important as the Obama downward spiral continues on toward next summer.

With power production down so low the big cities can no longer allow air conditioning, you will see considerable unrest. The Democrats and their hordes will begin to kill each other and Obama and his crowd will be as powerless in the face of such events as they've proven to be in Libya. He'll let his own peeps die meaninglessly in the streets.

22 posted on 11/07/2012 5:56:55 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SJackson

I’m exhibit #1 - a conservative who didn’t vote this year. I felt that no matter who won, things wouldn’t really change at all over the next four years. And they won’t.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 5:57:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chainmail

Romney lost because he didn’t fight in the third debate. He could have buried Obama with Benghazi but chose the Karl Rove-endorsed “New Tone” that Bush adopted: never, ever fight Democrats, just play nice.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 5:59:05 AM PST by Dansong
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To: Westbrook

If Mitt had run on his real first name he may have had a chance. He needed to win 60% of the male vote overall to win. To do that he had to prove he was a forceful leader.
He’s Dole redux, shoved down our throats by apparatchiks in the party into the vacuum caused by the (temporary) crippling of Sarah Palin.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 5:59:26 AM PST by steve8714 (Code pink vaginas shown actual size)
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To: Shery
Romney should have spoken up in support for Mourdock and Akin

Romney would have lost by another 3-4 points if he had done so.

You have no concept how much Palin is despised out in swing-state land. I was talking to a guy a work yesterday - he's a nuclear physicist, in Virginia, voted Republican for President in every election since Reagan, with ONE exception - voted Obama in 2008 because McCain "picked that nut Palin" for VP.

26 posted on 11/07/2012 5:59:51 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: bigbob
I have a bit of a take on the "Buckley rule" that expands on the original and provides a bit more direction than looking at a nebulous "electability" quality. See here.
27 posted on 11/07/2012 6:00:25 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: SJackson

It’s the free stuff, stupid.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 6:00:54 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: factmart
Your assessment is correct; America has forsaken the Lord Jesus Christ, God the Father, the Word of God and the Judeo-Christian principles our nation was founded upon.

America has utterly rejected conservatism and embraced Marxist-Socialism. We are under the direct judgment of Almighty God.

The good news is God is in control and the Lord Jesus Christ is coming back.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 6:03:11 AM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: SJackson

The best analysis I’ve read yet.

It echoes what I’ve been saying for years.

We need to learn the Art of Political War, as explained in David Horowitz’s book of that title.

We need to stop trying to get along. WE need to get in THEIR faces.

And we need to attack with the full arsenal of conservative principles.

That includes SOCIAL ISSUES.

The left has been welding the social/cultural issues to political and economic issues since the 1960s, through regulation, legislation, and funding.

If we give up the social issues or try to appeal to the left on the social/cultural issues, we unwittingly give up the entire argument.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 6:03:11 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: SJackson

Morons like akin and mourdock need to be kept far away from politics. Scaring away mushy voters and women is not a winning strategy.

In fact, eliminate all gonadal politics and focus on what can be done to improve the lives of those that vote and are willing to earn the money they receive.

Very few people desire a politician that meddles in their personal decisions.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 6:04:02 AM PST by soycd
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To: Shery

From the Tea Party Patriots website:

Tea Party Principles, Not Republican Establishment, are the Clear Path to Victory

Today, Tea Party Patriots, the nation’s largest tea party organization, criticized the Republican Party for hand-picking a weak, Beltway elite candidate who failed to campaign forcefully on America’s founding principles – and lost.

“For those of us who believe that America, as founded, is the greatest country in the history of the world – a ‘Shining city upon a hill’ – we wanted someone who would fight for us,” Jenny Beth Martin, National Coordinator of Tea Party Patriots. “We wanted a fighter like Ronald Reagan who boldly championed America’s founding principles, who inspired millions of independents and ‘Reagan Democrats’ to join us, and who fought his leftist opponents on the idea that America, as founded, was a ‘Shining city upon a hill.’

“What we got was a weak moderate candidate, hand-picked by the Beltway elites and country-club establishment wing of the Republican Party. The Presidential loss is unequivocally on them.

“While it might take longer to restore America’s founding principles with President Obama back in office, we are not going away.

“With the catastrophic loss of the Republican elite’s hand-picked candidate – the tea party is the last best hope America has to restore America’s founding principles.

“Our work begins again today. We will turn our attention back to Congress, to fight the battles that lie ahead including balancing the budget, repealing Obamacare, cutting the debt, holding the line on the debt ceiling, and the many other issues that will arise to threaten America.”


32 posted on 11/07/2012 6:06:33 AM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel (And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?)
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To: kevkrom

I’m going to read that in more detail, because you’ve put some good thought into it, and what we’re doing obviously isn’t working.

Without trying to sound like a spinmaster, now is the time for all good conservatives to figure out what to do. Reagan ain’t coming back to save us, and the times are not those when Reagan won. We’ve tried the RINO approach, and I’ll admit I’m among those who truly believe in conservative principles, but get lost in the “electability” argument.

So I think you’re pointing us in the right direction. Thanks.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 6:07:12 AM PST by bigbob
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To: SJackson

Rove was given way too much of a free hand. Romney should’ve kept him at bay. Even many republicans are sick of him. I think many just sat it out. The problem with voting for a 3rd party candidate who declares after the republican primary is that it is WAY TOO LATE to garner enough support to do more then spoil the election. Besides, Gary Johnson was NO CONSERVATIVE, either. Both Ron Paul (had he ran a 3rd party) and Gary Johnson had very non-conservative views. I could not support either one. Talk is cheap, but actions are telling.

We need to begin a real 3rd party right now, call it the Tea Party or Reagan Conservatives, the Constitution Party, the Founder’s Party...whatever. But start it now so that people are already seeing it as a viable alternative.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 6:08:42 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Three FIVE times now, the leadership has foisted worthless presidential candidates on the party: two failed Bush Presidencies, Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.

There, fixed it.

35 posted on 11/07/2012 6:08:59 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: SJackson

The moderates have already turned their guns on the tea party and conservatives in general.

Sure the tea party backed candidates lost some races but we also won some. Tea party backed Kerry Bentivolio won the moderate 11th district seat in Michigan by a wide margin. Michele Bachmann held her seat.

As for the Akin and Mourdock seats, sure they screwed up but the so called “moderates” did all they could to keep them wounded. Even as recently as yesterday they were gleefully reminding people of their mistakes. I have little doubt that many of them actively voted for the democrats in those races because proving themselves right is more important than doing the right thing.

My stance on moderates remains the same. They’re nothing but lying, manipulative, bottom feeding, scum. The GOP has been moderated into a coma and they need to hike up their big girl panties and go moderate the party that actually needs it.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 6:10:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Shery
Besides, Gary Johnson was NO CONSERVATIVE, either.

True, but he is a competent manager of government, the only Republican candidate with both the skills and demonstrated balls to cut spending and still win elections.

37 posted on 11/07/2012 6:11:34 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indenture since 1787.)
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To: SJackson

I held nose and voted in hope but I would feel better if I had voted for Sara. Get the Tea Party organized, I will support you.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 6:13:28 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Chainmail

The tea party activism translated in getting the house back in 2010.

The problem in the meantime is $3 trillion in handouts to the 47% in the form of new gubmint debt.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 6:13:30 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Shery

>Romney should have spoken up in support for Mourdock and Akin

No. Those two and anyone like them need to be avoided like the plague.

America is running out of voters that support meddling in personal affairs.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 6:15:03 AM PST by soycd
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