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To: xuberalles
Obama won independents in 2008...he will not this year...not even close. He has a horrible economy on his back and Republicans have the enthusiasm gap advantage.

I know, you're right. I agree. I'm not saying Obama will win Ohio. All I'm saying is when you compare 2012 to 2008 you must also take into consideration that Obama is the incumbent this time, he spent the last 4 years growing government (votes) and entitlement programs (more votes).

34 posted on 11/05/2012 11:03:07 PM PST by tsowellfan (KEEP WORKING like we are 10 POINTS DOWN!!!!)
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To: tsowellfan

I agree the number of the government tit has increased, but I don’t think it will tip the scales. (Fraud could however) Obama absolutely has a chance to win Ohio. However, being Obama is chained to the worst economy since the WWII, and early voting looks much better than 2008, I think we have gained a number of new votes.


44 posted on 11/05/2012 11:08:39 PM PST by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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