[GBA]

Regarding the "they" you speak of, my guess is that most of the casual followers fit your description and probably a bit less, percentage-wise, of the players. They are historically known as the useful idiots.

The same cannot be said, in my opinion, of those in the upper echelons of power on both sides.

The progressives in that bunch are the hard core ideologues and have a long term plan and goals and are slow walking it through the generations of Americans. They are quite serious and have been remarkably successful

The islamists can be lumped into that group as well, as they share similar immediate goals.

Misguided or not, they are dangerous and they most certainly will follow current and past examples into oblivion, if for no other reason than they believe they can do it where others failed.

Absolute power still corrupts absolutely and does so right before our very eyes.

[jsanders2001]

Agreed. You understood what I meant.