Posted on 11/01/2012 2:30:03 PM PDT by NYer
And 40% think that Muslims here should not be governed by the Constitution, but by Sharia. Does this really surprise anyone? Why should Muslims in the U.S. hold different beliefs from Muslims elsewhere?
"Guess who U.S. Muslims are voting for," by Bob Unruh for WND, October 31:
Nearly half of 600 Muslim-American citizens polled who plan to vote in the 2012 presidential election believe parodies of Muhammad should be prosecuted criminally in the U.S., and one in eight say the offense is so serious violators should face the death penalty.
The results came in a groundbreaking scientific poll for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies. It was taken Oct. 22-26 and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 3.98 percentage points.
The poll also found 40 percent of Muslims in America believe they should not be judged by U.S. law and the Constitution, but by Shariah standards.
And the big winner among Muslim-Americans in the presidential election is Barack Obama, the poll found. More than 72 percent said they are definitely supporting Obama, and another 8.5 percent are leaning that direction. Only 11 percent are for Romney....
“Almost half of those Muslims surveyed – an astonishing 46 percent – said they believe those Americans who offer criticism or parodies of Islam should face criminal charges,” said pollster Fritz Wenzel in an analysis of the survey’s results.
“Even more shocking: One in eight respondents said they think those Americans who criticize or parody Islam should face the death penalty, while another nine percent said they were unsure on the question,” he said.
Wenzel said even the 9 percent “undecided” on that particular question is alarming.
“Seldom in survey research does a response of ‘not sure’ carry such significance, but the response to this question certainly is a surprise, given the severity of the question, and offers insight into the conflict that some Muslims appear to face in making the ideals under-girding American society fit into their religious lifestyle,” he said.
Wenzel’s poll said 7.2 percent of the respondents said they “strongly agree” with the idea of execution for those who parody Islam, and another 4.3 percent said they somewhat agree.
While 80 percent said that they somewhat or strongly disagree with the idea, when those who said they were not sure are added, one in five Muslims across America cannot say they believe Christians or others who criticize Muhammad should be spared the death penalty.
More Muslim women (10.4 percent) than Muslim men (4.9 percent) said they strongly agree with the idea, while 12.4 percent of the women and 7.1 percent of the men were uncertain about the issue involving Muhammad.
Four in 10 said Muslims in America should not be judged by U.S. law and the Constitution, but by Islamic Shariah law.
“A much smaller percentage said they think the U.S. should establish an entirely separate court system to adjudicate matters involving Muslims,” Wenzel said.
While the respondents overwhelmingly lean toward the Democratic Party and like the direction Barack Obama, who repeatedly has praised Islam around the world, is leading this nation, they also have a fundamental conflict with American life, expressing objections to the freedom of speech and religion guaranteed in the Constitution.
American Muslims, Wenzel said, “show signs of ambivalence toward the U.S. Constitution generally and the First Amendment specifically.”
“These survey findings show a community in conflict with the foundations of our nation, as many Muslims favor and enjoy the freedoms offered by the U.S. Constitution, including participation in elections here, but at the same time significant percentages want to be treated differently than the average non-Muslim when it comes to legal matters,” he said.
“While 39 percent of Muslims said they believe existing U.S. courts should consult Shariah law when adjudicating cases involving Muslims, a plurality of 45 percent said they do not agree with this idea. Asked if the U.S. should establish separate courts based solely on Shariah law to adjudicate cases involving Muslim, 21 percent said it should. Two-thirds of respondents – 66 percent – said that separate courts are not necessary to adjudicate Muslims.”
While 9 of 10 of the Muslim respondents said they agree with the First Amendment, they are also in conflict with it, Wenzel said, citing evidence in answers to “another question in the survey which found that one-third of Muslims – 32 percent – believe Shariah should be the supreme law of the land in the United States,” Wenzel said.
“Another shocking finding from the survey is how Muslims view the religious freedoms of Christians. Asked whether U.S. citizens who are Christians have the right to evangelize Muslims to consider other faiths, just 30 percent agreed Christians have such a right. Another 42 percent said they do not have such a right, while 28 percent said they were unsure on the question.”
One in five say Muslim men should be allowed to follow their religion in America and have more than one wife, and 58 percent said criticism of their religion or of Muhammad should not be allowed under the Constitution.
While 43 percent said they disagreed with the idea of Christians evangelizing Muslims, another 27 percent said they were undecided. Only 19 percent said they “strongly agree” with the idea that Americans have a right to invite Muslims to consider another faith.
Nearly one in three said Israel either has no right to exist or they were uncertain whether it does.
Robert Spencer, author of “Stealth Jihad” and “Did Muhammad Ever Exist?,” told WND the survey is a “disquieting indication that Muslims in the U.S. support Shariah blasphemy laws and want to bring them to the U.S.”
“This should not surprise anyone,” he said. “There is no reason to believe that Muslims in the U.S. believe in a different form of Islam from that which prevails everywhere else. But it underscores the need for Americans to defend, forthrightly and without apology, the freedom of speech, as it is increasingly embattled today, and to revive and enact anti-Shariah laws nationwide.”
Spencer has authored 12 books on Islam and has led seminars about jihad for the United States Central Command, United States Army Command, the FBI, the Joint Terrorism Task Force and others.
Pamela Geller, author of ”Stop the Islamization of America” and a WND columnist, said: “Restrictions on free speech are part of Shariah. This poll does nothing but show that Muslims in this country adhere to Shariah in large numbers. What is surprising is that the percentage of those who oppose free speech isn’t higher. But probably many of the respondents already know better than to say what they really think to non-Muslim pollsters.”...
Heh, heh, when Sir Winston held up two fingers with the palm inward, he was flipping the bird, British style.
And we know what Churchill thought about the ROPers.
interesting idea. might be easier to simply prohibit moslems from entering the country.
47% of the people in this country are idiots.
Islam should be treated as a criminal enterprise, banned, and prosecuted.
Though nobody has done a poll of Americans, I wonder...
“How many Americans think Islam should be criminalized?”
It’s simple, really, and what much of the rest of the world already does with religions that it does not accept as compatible with their nation.
The courts have long recognized that the Bill of Rights is not universal. Free speech can be restrained if it is creates a public menace or threat, among many other restrictions.
Likewise, the US has no obligation to accept the practices of a religion that are contrary to our freedoms and liberties. We easily outlaw religious murder, human sacrifice and cannibalism, so why not outlaw those parts of Islam that are repulsive as well?
Yes, you can freely practice your religion, but you cannot incite violence, threaten others, call for the overthrow of our form of government, reject the legal authority of our courts, criminally abuse others, to include women and children, you cannot oppress other religious faiths or lack thereof, to engage in polygamy, to have sex with or marry children below the legal age, etc.
If Muslims can steadfastly obey these rules, then they can live in America and practice their religion in peace. If they cannot, then any time they violate these rules, they must be punished, and if they will not stop violating these rules, they are free to leave America.
75% of Americans believe Muslims should be shipped back to wherever the hell they came from.
If all the religions, in all the world, throughout all time could crap up a turd, it would be Islam.
It literally has nothing about it which redeems it.
Only someone with brain damage would convert to it.
I’d like to give the extremist muzzies a bacon-wrapped jalapeno and then tell them to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine, next roughly escort them to a B52 bomb bay door, strap ‘em in tightly, have the bomber fly over their land of origin, open the bomb bay doors, and let them out without a parachute.
Oops, guess I’ve seen too many B-rated action/adventure movies...
100% of Muslims need to be bathed in the cleansing fire of the atom, until not one person is left to bow to Mecca.
No Muslim will ever be my countryman.
They clearly don’t understand this country or buy into its founding principles. These muslims are free to leave now.
Too late
“May piss be upon them.”
And him.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t.
Great post & thread. Condolences in advance to family and friends of those Americans who will be murdered on American soil by members of the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collective in the history of civilization.
Fislam
life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians
I don't care what 46% of muslims think, but 100% of muslims better care what Americans think. Otherwise, we will end up playing cowboys and muslims for keeps.
5.56mm
Bring it on
Bring it on
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