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1 posted on 10/27/2012 1:49:25 PM PDT by nhwingut
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I think Obama has only one card left in the deck which is to say the Republicans are doing to him what they did to Kerry in 2004.

Obama is being Swiftboated.


2 posted on 10/27/2012 1:51:29 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Media goes nuts in 2004 because Bush went to the dentist 20 years ago. Benghazi? Nothing.)
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0bama couldn't even respond when we lost a classified drone to Iran. He didn't even have the guts to retrieve or destroy a damn drone which could fall and did fall into enemy hands. I guess to 0bama, they aren't the enemy?

"The future does not belong to those who insult the Prophet Mohammed" -- George Washington

Ooops, Sorry!! President Barack Hussein 0bama said that!

3 posted on 10/27/2012 1:53:30 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To say that 0bama is a disgusting piece of scum slanders scum! How anyone in the military can respect him is beyond me.


4 posted on 10/27/2012 1:53:57 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( For AMERICA's sake: Vote for the Mormon, NOT the muslim; The Capitalist, NOT the Communist! FUBO!)
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5 posted on 10/27/2012 1:54:08 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Travis McGee; Ernest_at_the_Beach; nhwingut

Ping to another hero’s voice.


7 posted on 10/27/2012 1:56:00 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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The article brings up a good point. Just sending some fast planes, fighters, at roof top levels may have scared off the attackers. Surely, those folks have seen some of the vids where helicopters and ac130s have been watching, then picking the enemy off.

This here, is such a bungled operation, that no amount of spin or deception can cover it up. Fortunately, Obama is going to be gone soon, and the administration will not be left to cover it up. Also, with Obama gone, there will be folks speaking up faster and in greater numbers.


8 posted on 10/27/2012 1:56:13 PM PDT by Professional
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Obama Refuses to Answer ‘Repeated Questions on Whether Requests for Help in Benghazi Were Denied’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/reporter-obama-would-not-answer-repeated-questions-on-whether-requests-for-help-in-benghazi-were-denied/


9 posted on 10/27/2012 1:56:41 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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Watergate was a group of GOP election strategists breaking into a hotel room and stealing the election strategy of the Democrats. It was nothing more than a college football player breaking into the opposing locker room and stealing a playbook. Nixon tried to hide the embarrassing and stupid stunt, and got excoriated for all history for this basic theft of meaningless political plans (ads, speeches, debate ideas, etc).

In Benghazi, we have a sitting president cooperating with Al Qaeda terrorists, our current enemy in an active war, giving them arms to help oust a sitting leader (Qaddafi), to help that terrorist movement (the Arab Spring) continue across the Middle East.

In that cooperation, the sitting President plots to have an Ambassador (a rather important position) kidnapped, and plans to trade his life for the life of a horrible terrorist (the Blind Sheik), and to use the goodwill from that staged "leadership" in the (pre-arranged) trade to help win an election.

When that plan goes awry, because two honorable Navy SEALs disobeyed White House orders to stand down, and attempted to save a fellow American. The White House then orders all other potential support to stand down, leaving the Ambassador, his clerk, and the SEALs to be slaughtered.

THIS IS NOTHING LIKE WATERGATE. THIS IS MORE LIKE HIGH TREASON, MURDER, AND A MASSIVE COVER-UP AT NUMEROUS LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA.

12 posted on 10/27/2012 2:05:30 PM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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Now I was only a LT for 5 years active duty in NavSpecWar, but it was imprinted deeply upon my brain that ONLY the POTUS can give cross-border permission. Probably a million living ex-military officers know this like they know 2+2=4. This Benghazi fiasco is Obama’s baby 100% and there is no way for him to wiggle out.

The system is designed to ENSURE that when a crisis is happening, (and a missing ambassador with a consulate under attack is “Crisis Level Infinity”), and military assets are already charging in to the rescue, the president must be in the loop to grant the the cross-border authorization. Nobody else can do this. This one formality must be followed, “just put your intitials here, Mr. President, for history,” so to speak. Boiler plate, but it must be done.

(Can you imagine Reagan or either Bush saying “No. Cross border permission not granted. Stop the rescue. Stand down.”)

The POTUS has to tell the Sec. State and JCS, “Yes, do it, execute the rescue, cross the borders.” Then it WILL happen, without delay, since the military is already on the way, flying in from all directions toward Benghazi.

But if POTUS says at 5pm DC time, “No military action, no cross border,” and then he becomes “unavailable,” then his last standing order stands until he changes it. So if he went to bed, for example, nobody could change his standing orders.

I imagine that a lot of extreme military, CIA and State Dept. craziness was going down while Obama was sleeping. Aircraft must be told proceed, or return to base, or they fall from the sky. I imagine many HEATED arguments around the globe on phone, text and email, subject, “Well wake the damn president up!” Followed by, “I can’t! You MUST stand down the mission!”

Just imagine dozens of inbound planes, jets and helos. Ships moving at full speed into position to be “lilypads” for long-range over-water helo refueling. Airborne refueling tankers all head to the area. It’s a complicated ballet. The Pentagon is wide awake, the military is on full alert. The rescue is in process, from the first minutes after the alarm.

Everybody in all the planes and involved HQs knows how many minutes/miles to the Libyan border, Benghazi, and their “bingo fuel” moment, when they must turn around or run dry and crash. Ships can “loiter,” but planes fall from the sky.

So you can imagine why General Ham of Africom was relieved for refusing to stand down. He probably KNEW Obama was “unavailable,” and was screaming over the phone, “Well, wake him up, dammit!!”

Planes and jets and helicopters and ships and commando teams are zooming all around the central Med, keying in on Benghazi——

And in that environment, OBAMA WAS ASLEEP AND UNREACHABLE!!!!!

Resting up for Las Vegas! With a MISSING AMBASSADOR, in Al-Queadatown!


16 posted on 10/27/2012 2:13:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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If Obama is reelected, I could see Vince Flynn’s Term Limits coming true to life.


23 posted on 10/27/2012 2:28:20 PM PDT by ScottinSacto (Liberals support abortion on demand and gay marriage....sounds like a great strategic plan!)
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Zinke: grandpa BAUCUS needs to go back to chasing sheep. You might be a good US Senator. Think about it.


31 posted on 10/27/2012 3:06:15 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Man it just hit me, blaming the video was just a cover for what happened in Benghazi-perhaps a double cross was uncovered and the jihadis wanted to settle some scores. Although islamists used the video as a pretext to protest against the US on 911 across the ME, the WH and the State dept took advantage of the “video” incident to buy more time so they can get their story straight on the attack on the consulate once it became clear that something terribly went wrong and I would argue that the two seals that left their station to help the ambassador were not supposed to do that and their deaths compounded the problem thus propelled the WH and State dept to spin the story even more so. Was the ambassador involved in a scheme to funnel arms to Syria through Turkey? Or did he uncover this scheme and tried to put an end to it resulting in his death? Man this story has legs. People died for what can arguable be considered an intelligence operation that was perhaps run right out of the WH.


32 posted on 10/27/2012 3:08:01 PM PDT by bubman
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TREASON!
44 posted on 10/27/2012 4:10:23 PM PDT by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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Why hasn’t anyone brought Valerie Jarrett’s name into this? If she stopped him several times from going after Bin Laden, then maybe she advised him not to interfere in Benghazi.


45 posted on 10/27/2012 4:29:59 PM PDT by Tenlein
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Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer: My sources tell me Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2951280/posts

He also replaced generals and admirals who refused to stand down-

Obama Administration Replaces Top Generals Following Benghazi Disaster

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2951223/posts


50 posted on 10/27/2012 8:16:55 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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