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Dire State of Affairs in Illinois
Townhall.com ^ | October 27, 2012 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 10/27/2012 10:07:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: StandAndDeliver1
Different mix, plus they don't pour as much salt on it.

Still, i can show you an interstate interchange that connects a major NS national thoroughfare with Veterans Parkway in Bloomington IL that looks as bad as anything in Chicago.

The Democrats left it unimproved for decades, and every campaign where a Democrat ran for the legislature or Congress he'd say 'I can fix this if you vote for me', and they'd vote for him, and it wouldn't get fixed.

Sometimes the color depends on the aggregate mixed into the mortar ~ PA has what I've always taken to be dark violet sidewalks ~ and, of course, PA has a primary layer of accessible shale and limestone that is violet ~

21 posted on 10/27/2012 11:13:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

Here is that urban planning article that details Chicago’s precipitous decline. It’s called, “Second-Rate City”:

http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_2_chicago.html


22 posted on 10/27/2012 11:18:47 AM PDT by StandAndDeliver1
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To: Kaslin
Illinois is insolvent, but what can be done about it?

Illinois has civil unions and is working hard to legislate homosexual marriage. Illinois has one of the largest abortion mill in the United States. Illinois leads in STDs, unwed mothers, violence, corruption.

SIN is the underlying problem in Illinois.

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

23 posted on 10/27/2012 12:18:27 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Kaslin

I love it! When Romney comes into power, there will be NOTHING too big to fail. Even rat states.


24 posted on 10/27/2012 12:27:54 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: StandAndDeliver1

we lived in the best part of downtown Chicago on the Gold Coast and the roads and streets had HUGE POTHOLES even though all the streets have beautiful trees and flowers that are changed out 3-4 times a year (paid for by the businesses and condos they are in front of) but the actual rods were HORRIBLE!!! WHERE”S ALLL THE MONEY GOING???


25 posted on 10/27/2012 12:38:36 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin
Re: “Illinois is insolvent, but what can be done about it?”

Plan “A” - Reelect Obama.

Plan “B” - Scream racism.

26 posted on 10/27/2012 12:57:08 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Kaslin

Put on the popcorn —


27 posted on 10/27/2012 1:47:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Kaslin

I’m in the Finance biz. I seem to recall that back in about 2002, the State of Illinois floated bonds of 10 b to borrow money, invest, to make up for the shortfall in pensions. So, it might just be worse than you think, if you aren’t including debt that is associated with the assets.

Imaging that, Illinois borrowing money, to invest in the stock market, because they are SOOOO far behind in pension funding. So, not only do the tax payers pay taxes do fund the pensions, but they are on the hook for borrowed money, and need to pay interest on that money...

Sadly, I doubt that Illinois is the only state to have done this desperate move.


28 posted on 10/27/2012 1:51:25 PM PDT by Professional
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"Same in Buffalo, and Detroit. One of the things that has always bugged me about “investing in infrastructure” was that gosvernments should be maintainng roads and bridges on a contiuous basis. There are ostensibly plenty of dedicated revenue sources to keep these thing in good repair (fuel taxes, registration fees, tolls, milage fees, etc). Yet the liberals have to raid these revenue streams to fund their welfare state."

That's what sunk New Orleans. There was plenty of money to maintain the levees, but the separate levy boards used the funds as their piggy bank for family and friends (common in all liberal-controlled communities).

29 posted on 10/27/2012 1:52:40 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Kaslin

Thing is - the toll roads were going to take care of the roads & bridges and the gambling boats and lotto were going to save the schools. Hmmmm...


30 posted on 10/27/2012 1:54:02 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Kaslin

The mathamatically simple plan is to halve pension payments forever. Problem solved


31 posted on 10/27/2012 2:01:48 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Kaslin
Teachers Retirement System (TRS) - 46.1%
State University Employees Retirement System (SURS) - 45.3%
State Employees Retirement System (SERS) - 34.9%
General Assembly Retirement System (GARS) - 20.2%
Judicial Retirement System (JRS) - 31.0%

When I left UofIll in '91, I rolled retirement from the State Screwniversity Retirement System into an IRA. My grandmother upbraided me for that. "Oh, they'll never let that go bust."

They just might. I think I was right.

32 posted on 10/27/2012 2:51:03 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: Kaslin

////////To close the gap with spending cuts alone would require over 25 percent across the board reductions in all spending (other than for pensions, debt service, and transportation)./////////

i like that idea best.........


33 posted on 10/27/2012 2:51:51 PM PDT by is_is (VP Dad of Sgt. G - My Hero - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: Kaslin

could someone explain why the bond prices have not crashed?


34 posted on 10/27/2012 4:37:25 PM PDT by genghis
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To: Lee N. Field
They just might. I think I was right.

If you were vested, it was probably not the best of ideas. You would have forfeited the states matching share and compounding until you were 55. If you weren't vested, rolling it over to an IRA was a wise decision.

35 posted on 10/27/2012 5:09:56 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: cgbg

“A major trend in the next five-ten years will be baby boomers deciding where to live when it is time to retire (and they don’t need to commute any more). One factor they will look at is _future_ local and state tax rates.”

That’s the tip of the iceberg. Add “national” taxes to the mix of things looked at, and you see the problem that’s brewing. U.S. dual nationals living abroad are already renouncing their citizenship to avoid the taxes and banking problems they’re encountering. As those tax issues become more relevant to those at lower and lower income levels, as they will, you see the potential problem.

One smart thing that Gov. Romney is pushing is to stop taxing Americans on a citizenship basis rather than a residency basis as most countries already do. It’s not to be nice to expats, simply an acknowledgement of reality.


36 posted on 10/27/2012 6:50:39 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Leftists are the small hive beetles of the American hive)
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To: Kaslin

If a state can not pay its debts, its government fails. The state loses status as a state: Reverts to being a non state territory, just as the pretended secession of South Carolina et al. caused the states to revert to territories. The promises of the state are then meaningless. The Federal government would then be able to appoint a territorial governor, and arrange a new state government, with a new constitution giving proper constitutional protections.


37 posted on 10/28/2012 1:58:39 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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