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To: butterdezillion

My pointing out the stupidity and pointlessness of his comment is having no impact.

But what is funny is that you believe MY remarks are damaging but HIS remark is “telling the truth” and excused. Hilarious stuff.

You believe HIS boneheaded move will not hurt and cost votes but my pointing to its absurdity will.


106 posted on 10/25/2012 10:14:24 AM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: arrogantsob

You spouting the media’s logic has no effect?

Then why do you believe that this whole issue has any effect? If joining the media bandwagon against Mourdock has no effect, then who exactly does the media bandwagon affect?

People seem to be afraid that these comments will impact undecided voters. If so, then the thing that will stem the loss of undecided voters is pointing out why the media is misrepresenting what Mourdock said and/or meant. They’re trying to make it appear that Mourdock said women should be glad they were raped because God willed it, and you’re saying how stupid it was for Mourdock to say what he did. What does that do to help?

I’m saying that Mourdock never said that rape is fine, or that women should be glad if they were raped because it is God’s will. I’m saying that Mourdock said God is the author of life and that He works to bring good out of bad - which means that nothing bad that is done to us can destroy us, because we have Somebody working it out for good.

I’ve also challenged the idea that it’s OK to hate and destroy a child for the crime of his father. I’ve challenged the idea that we are guaranteed to be able to control everything about our life, or that if we are hurt we can pass that hurt on to somebody else just to be “fair”. I’ve challenged the idea that one innocent person’s right to say “no” legally trumps another innocent person’s very life (Does a homeowner have the right to knowingly kill and remove the body of a person who was kidnapped and placed within their home?)

Your venting about how stupid Mourdock is makes a net gain of zero at best. Makes you feel better, maybe. At worst it reinforces the very arguments being made by the media, which you claim to lament - and will lead undecided voters to vote against Mourdock and depress the vote of those who intended to vote for Mourdock but now believe it is hopeless.

Does feeling good about showing how stupid Mourdock is compared to you, arrogantsob, justify the potential harm you’re doing to Mourdock and conservatism?

I have reservations about Mitt Romney. I’ve written a letter to the editor opposing Mitt Romney in the primary because of his forcing Catholic hospitals to perform abortions. Now that Romney is the candidate, I want him to win because he’s the lesser of the 2 evils, but I can’t put a Romney sign in my yard. What I CAN do is argue the points I can in good conscience make, to fight against Obama and those who think like him. If/when Romney is elected I can then try to deal with his wrong stuff, but right now is not the time for that because there is a worse enemy we have to fight. I am choosing to be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Which are you? Don’t answer here if you don’t want to. This isn’t to put you or anybody else on the spot publicly, but to get each one of us to think about the impact we are having, compared to the impact we intend to have.


108 posted on 10/25/2012 10:42:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: arrogantsob

And yes, I do believe he told the truth. God IS the author of life, God does bring good even out of bad situations, and He has promised that we will not be given more than we can bear.

Very, very important truths that have been made very, very real to me over the course of my life and that can mean life and hope to ANYBODY in a crisis situation.

I’m sad for you if you don’t believe those things are true.

I wish he had said what he meant in a way that would not be distorted as easily. But the best I can do is to affirm what he said and not the distortions that the media is presenting.


109 posted on 10/25/2012 10:50:16 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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