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To: DiogenesLamp
I do not know why i'm bothering to do this because I don't see false information being spread about Obama as something I should particularly worry about...

Did you watch the new YouTube? Loren has actual physical copies of the original magazines with published dates.

I'm not philosophically opposed to sleazy politics and unproven innuendo. I think what Kevin at Hillbuzz is doing "under the radar" may turn out to be one of the most effective base voter suppression efforts we've seen in a while.

But, if you're going to accuse the President's dead mother of being a soft-core porn model, being wrong has the strong potential of creating a sympathetic backfire. Not to mention, as we see on this thread, it being lumped in with real serious investigative work like 2016 and The Communist in an effort to discredit them all.

And unless you believe Paul is dead and Elvis is alive, these previous works by Joel Gilbert establish his willingness to exploit absurd conspiracies for a few bucks. He has no problem lying.

44 posted on 10/21/2012 10:20:29 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (Muppet season now open - no bag limit)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
Did you watch the new YouTube? Loren has actual physical copies of the original magazines with published dates.

No I have not. I will look for it.

But, if you're going to accuse the President's dead mother of being a soft-core porn model, being wrong has the strong potential of creating a sympathetic backfire.

That is a possibility I have considered, but it appears that the people who would provoke the backfire aren't bothering to watch the movie and be provoked to outrage. I have been listening for a backfire, but apparently his work is so widely and instantly dismissed as to be incapable of producing one.

Another possibility is that those on the left who would produce a backfire may be so frightened of drawing attention to the movie that they are keeping silent.

Not to mention, as we see on this thread, it being lumped in with real serious investigative work like 2016 and The Communist in an effort to discredit them all.

Yes, I agree. Lying about facts just gives Liberals cause to dismiss other information which is actually true.

And unless you believe Paul is dead and Elvis is alive, these previous works by Joel Gilbert establish his willingness to exploit absurd conspiracies for a few bucks. He has no problem lying.

That is but one explanation. I have worked in the conservative movement for many decades and I am very well aware that there are good conservatives who believe all sorts of kooky crazy things. (The Kennedy Assassination stuff among them) I know Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, and Army Officers, etc that believe all manner of nonsense but they are perfectly functional in all other aspects.

I do not automatically discount an otherwise functional person's information and opinion because they believe a lot of utterly silly crap. (Such as the New World Order conspiracy.)

In the case of Gilbert though, it appears he crosses the line between gathering and relaying information, and knowingly falsifying the truth for his own political reasons or personal gain.

Apparently he has no problem lying... To us, his audience.

45 posted on 10/21/2012 10:43:46 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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