My grandson has claimed everything else and loaded his gun rack.
Posted on 10/19/2012 12:39:21 PM PDT by marktwain
"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss." Chinese philosopher Sun Tzu said this over 2000 years ago in his book The Art of War. It's hardly new advice. Yet it is just as useful now as it was so many centuries ago.
Armed citizens spend countless hours trying to find the perfect weapon system, combining the best size, accuracy, reliability, and stopping power into one easy-to-carry package. They try friends' guns. They read gun magazines. They study every gun website on the Internet. They are truly taking Sun Tzu's advice above as they attempt to "know themselves."
But how much time does the average CCW permit holder spend on the other portion of that quote? How many of you spend an equal amount of time studying criminal behavior in order to "know your enemy?" Most of my students don't study criminal behavior nearly as much as they should.
There are several reasons for this phenomenon. The primary reason is that most honest citizens don't come into contact with hardened criminals on a daily basis. They don't personally know any criminals and have no direct experience dealing with them. Without having regular contact with criminals, honest citizens are forced to rely on research done by others. Most criminological research isn't all that interesting or relevant for the law-abiding citizen. The available academic research simply doesn't answer many of the questions the average person cares about.
Armed citizens want to understand commonly used criminal ruses and attacks. They want to know how likely they are to be victimized. They want to know potential characteristics of their attackers and their attackers' weapons. They want to know when and where crimes occur. Unfortunately, most criminological researchers aren't interested in the same topics. It's tough finding useful research.
The lack of available research leads to real preparation problems for the armed citizen. How does a person choose what type of weapon to carry when he doesn't have a good idea of the threat he faces? Wouldn't knowing the types of weapons criminals carry be important information to have before deciding what type of weapon you should carry? Remember Sun Tzu's quote above; we need to know both ourselves AND our enemies.
There hasn't been a whole lot of published research on the subject of criminal weapons. There are numerous studies from the FBI and US DOJ about weapons used in crimes, but they don't go into great detail. Most only identify if the weapon used by the criminal was a firearms, edged weapon, or impact weapon. If the reports supply additional information about firearms, they seldom track individual weapon types, calibers, and ammunition. Most papers only classify the weapons used in crimes as "handguns," "rifles," and "shotguns." That's not enough information for the armed citizen. He or she needs to know more details about the threats they face.
In my full-time job as a police training officer, I have much better access to criminal weapon information than the average citizen has. In fact, all the guns my department seizes from criminals end up in my office after the cases have been adjudicated. I get regular packages containing a crime report, a gun, and the ammunition loaded in it crossing my desk. I then test fire all of these weapons with the exact ammunition they were loaded with during the time of the crime.
Over the past several years, I have been collecting information about these weapons to share with my officers and the students in my classes. Please keep in mind that this is a very small sample of weapons and depending on your locale, it may not reflect the threats that YOU face. My police agency is relatively small and patrols a very affluent suburban community in the Midwest. The crime rate in our city is very low. It certainly isn't Miami or Los Angeles, but over time, I've amassed quite a database of criminal weapons and ammunition.
That data I will report below comes from the details of the last 85 weapons that my agency has seized from criminals. Each of these weapons was seized from the criminal contemporaneous with the crime he committed. Some were taken from the criminal's body, some from the criminal's house, and some from the criminal’s car. I did not include guns that were donated to the department or guns used in suicides here. The majority of the weapons detailed here were taken from armed robbers and other types of criminals who were carrying guns in the commission of their crimes. The Basics
As I stated above, this study contains the details the most recent 85 firearms taken from criminals by my agency. Of those 85 guns:
- 67 were handguns
* 13 revolvers
* 52 semi –automatic pistols
* 1 Derringer
* 1 illegally-converted fully automatic machine pistol
- 11 were rifles
# 4 Bolt Actions
# 7 semi –automatic rifles
- 7 were shotguns
* 4 Pump Actions
* 3 single shots or double barrels
We had a wide variety of firearms manufacturers included in the database. Companies that represented the most seized guns were:
- Ruger-9
- Smith and Wesson- 6
- Glock-5
- Hi Point- 5
- Beretta- 4
- Lorcin- 4
- Remington- 4
- Raven- 3
- Jennings- 3
- IntraTec- 3
- Norinco- 3
Nine of the 85 weapons were completely broken and unable to function. 17 more of the guns had limited functionality because of frequent (at least 1 in the first 3 rounds I fired) malfunctions, lack of magazines (5 guns), and other problems like incorrect magazines, and internal parts breakage that lead to inconsistent firing ability.
Caliber and Ammunition
It was quite shocking to me to note that many of the guns we seized were unloaded! Here's the breakdown:
- Unloaded- 24 (28%)
- Less than fully-loaded- 4 (5%)
- Loaded with the wrong caliber ammunition- 2 (2%)
- Loading status unknown- 6 (7%)
- Fully Loaded- 49 (57%)
The handguns we seized were of the following calibers:
- .22 Short, Long Rifle, and Magnum- 9
- .25 ACP- 3
- .32 ACP, Short or Long- 5
- .380 ACP- 5
- .38 SPL or S&W- 4
- 9mm- 26
- .357 Mag, or Sig- 5
- .40 S&W- 4
- .45 ACP- 5
- .50 AE- 1
All the shotguns except one were 12 gauges. The rifles were split between .22 Long Rifle, .223, and 7.62x39mm.
When the guns were loaded, they contained a strange mix of ammunition. Of the loaded handguns:
- 26 were loaded with FMJ or RNL ammunition- (51%)
- 14 contained Jacketed Hollowpoint ammunition- (27%)
- 9 contained some mix of several different ammunition types (18%)
- 2 were loaded with handgun shotshells- (4%)
A couple of other interesting notes on ammunition:
- All of the .22 weapons had RNL ammo or shotshells. Not a single hollowpoint round was loaded into any of the .22s.
- All of the .357 magnum revolvers were loaded with premium hollowpoint ammunition
- Roughly 75% of the .40S&W and .45ACP pistols were loaded with hollowpoint ammunition
- More than 80% of the 9mm pistols were loaded with FMJ ammunition
Discussion
The most likely firearm threat a citizen in my community is likely to face is from a handgun. Roughly 79% of the weapons we take from criminals are revolvers or pistols. This echoes the statistics gathered by the US Department of Justice on crime-related firearms injuries. Their research states that 82% of crime victims that received gunshot wounds were shot by handguns.
Those handguns are not always the cheap and easily concealed "Saturday Night Specials" that criminals stereo-typically carry. Dr. James Wright, in his book "Armed and Considered Dangerous" found that the criminals he studied preferred larger, more powerful, and more reliable handguns over smaller, cheaper, and more easily concealed ones.
My data bears this out. Of the 67 handguns carried by criminals in this study, only 17 of them (25%) were below .35 caliber. The vast majority were medium to larger caliber weapons.
The guns were not all cheaply made either. The three most commonly represented handgun manufacturers in this study (Ruger, Smith and Wesson, and Glock) are generally known to make quality, reliable handguns. Only about 23% of the guns we took from criminals could be considered “Saturday Night Specials”.
Previous research conducted by the Bureau of Justice Statistics tells us that in all criminal victimizations with firearms; only 11% of the victims were shot or shot at. When criminal attacks with all weapons (knives, clubs, etc.) are included, less than 1% of armed criminal victimizations resulted in a gunshot wound. These statistics have always been puzzling to me. Why aren't more people getting shot by criminals?
Now I know the answer. The criminals' weapons won't fire! Let's break down the numbers again:
Out of 85 weapons seized:
- 24 are not loaded
- 2 are not loaded with the correct ammunition
- 9 are completely broken
Combine those facts and you will see that 41% of the weapons we seize from criminals are completely non-functional!
Now include the four guns that weren't fully loaded and the 17 with extremely limited function (no magazines, malfunctioned within 1st 3 rounds, etc.) and take a look at the results. In total, 66% of the guns we took from criminals were unable to be fired or could be fired for fewer than three rounds before being empty or experiencing a malfunction!
I believe that's a major factor in why victims of firearms crimes are so unlikely to be shot!
In their paper Firearm Injury and Death from Crime, The U.S. Department of Justice states that there are 3.3 nonfatal firearms wounds for every fatal one. In addition to highlighting the effectiveness of our medical system, that statistic can also show that the criminals who do have functioning weapons aren't very accurate or aren't using the most effective bullets available.
My study bears this statistic out as well. Only 27% of the loaded handguns we seized were loaded with quality Jacketed Hollowpoint ammunition. The rest were loaded with far less effective FMJ, RNL, or Shotshell ammunition.
Lessons to Learn
To ensure victory against criminals, armed citizens and police officers need to be better equipped and better prepared than the attackers they face. What does this research suggest as far as preparations?
1) If the armed citizen is going to face a criminal attacker, the criminal is likely to be armed with a medium to large caliber handgun, most likely a 9mm auto pistol. That tells me that I may not feel comfortable carrying a little pocket gun. I really don’t want to be carrying a small .32 automatic when my attacker is likely to be armed with a full sized Ruger, S&W, or Glock pistol! Carry enough gun!
On the other hand, you are quite unlikely to encounter criminals with military-style semi-automatic rifles. Maybe it's safe to leave the long guns and plate body armor at home on your next trip to the grocery store.
2) Criminals often carry unloaded or poorly functioning weapons. Make sure your weapon is loaded and functional! Don’t carry with the chamber empty (that’s almost the same as being unloaded), buy a quality handgun and keep it both clean and well-lubricated.
You must also understand the true danger you face when confronting an armed criminal. Many victims comply with an armed criminal's demands during the crime because they assume that the criminal's gun is fully functional and loaded. This study shows that more likely than not, that’s a false assumption. While I'm not advocating resistance in every instance of criminal violence, that course of action is likely to be more successful than the average person realizes.
3) Criminals usually carry cheap and less effective FMJ and RNL ammunition in their guns. The guns may have a mix of several ammunition types (each likely shooting to a different point of aim), or be only partially loaded.
Make sure your weapon is fully loaded with high quality ammunition. Any of the major brand jacketed hollow-point bullets is likely to be fine. Ensure the gun cycles reliably with your chosen ammunition.
Conclusion
Now that you know a little bit more about your enemy, you can better prepare yourself. Carry a quality weapon. Keep it clean and lubricated. Load it with good ammunition. Train until you can’t fail.
If Sun Tzu had guns back in his day, I bet he'd tell you the same thing.
Greg Ellifritz is the full time firearms and defensive tactics training officer for a central Ohio police department. He holds instructor or master instructor certifications in more than 75 different weapon systems, defensive tactics programs and police specialty areas. Greg has a master's degree in Public Policy and Management and is an instructor for both the Ohio Peace Officer's Training Academy and the Tactical Defense Institute.
For more information or to contact Greg, visit his training site at Active Response Training.
I wonder what was the caliber and what they were trying to load?
One probably important caveat: carry what you will practice with and become competent with; if that means you carry a .22 automatic with stinger hollowpoints, you will be competent in defeating untrained criminals. No matter what you carry, if your assailant is practiced with the weapon he carries, he will get the first shot off before you can draw and fire, so carry what you can use competently to send more than one round on target, quickly. I’ve carried a .22 semi auto for years ... and fired thousands of rounds through the first one I carried and now the one I presently carry. Tools require proper use and maintenance.
“These statistics have always been puzzling to me. Why aren’t more people getting shot by criminals?
Now I know the answer. The criminals’ weapons won’t fire!”
The simpler explanation is that most criminals don’t carry guns to shoot people. They carry guns to make people do what they want. Shooting someone just adds more time when they are caught. And they don’t shop in gun stores and decide which brand they want to buy. They buy whatever they can find on the street, ie. stolen weapons.
Made me think of Raising Arizona; “It ain't armed robbery if the gun ain't loaded”
He seems to say that there should be a cartridge in the chamber at all times. “One in the spout” may be fine and necessary when facing a high probability of encountering a criminal, but, given the normal low probability of that, isn’t it a little too much for everyday use?
I’ll make sure I memorize these statistics just in case I get held up.
Should help a lot.
Thanks.
I’ll make sure I memorize these statistics just in case I get held up.
Should help a lot.
Thanks.
My grandson has claimed everything else and loaded his gun rack.
SHTF ping
I suppose for 9,999 days out of 10,000 you are perfectly OK to carry the gun completely unloaded (everyday use). What is really tough is determining when that other day is going to occur.
No it isn't too much. A round should absolutely be chambered and ready to fire if one is going to carry for personal protection. Carrying a weapon with an empty chamber is begging to die "studpidly" as the Sword Saint of Japan, Miyamoto Musashi would put it.
Most people will indeed go their entire lifetime without ever having to use deadly force, but even if it only happens once in your life the event and it's outcome will be of significant importance to the person it's happening to.
The lesser probability of it happening doesn't mean you are at a lower risk if it does. I wouldn't go out on the road without a spare tire, even though I rarely need one, because it only takes once to get stranded on a lonely road. Same principle.
Wait a minute. You’re saying I can’t double my firepower by loading my .44 with two .22’s per chamber? Who knew?
The only criminals I’ve ever run into are COPS! Police are a much greater danger than criminals. I can at least fight back against the criminal.
If I’m carrying it, it WILL be ready to fire.
Thanks, eh? Definitely worth knowing.
interesting
One of the more telling anecdotes I’ve ever seen from an attempted armed robbery actually says a lot.
The potential victim had exited his city apartment and was walking to his parked car next to the sidewalk. He heard something that made him pause, but it took several seconds to figure out that a man, perhaps a block or so away, was shouting. Several more seconds to realize that the man was shouting at him.
The man was screaming at him to come to him and give him his money. Then the victim realized that the man was not approaching, but likely in the throws of some drug, trembling or shaking so hard he could not walk.
The robber cursed and screamed and demanded, eventually pulling what the victim supposed was a knife, slashing the air in front of him, ineffectually.
While this anecdote seems odd and unlikely, ironically perhaps the most telling part of it was the distance between robber and victim, when the robber initiated the event.
How often does this sort of thing happen at much closer range, yet the robber, and/or his weapon, is effectively worthless?
I’ve heard a lot of anecdotes where this was the case. Some slight youth, addled with drugs or alcohol, trying to menace some much larger man who could easily smite him even without a weapon.
Almost as common, some addict that exits a drug house, robs the first person they see, then goes right back into the drug house to buy more drugs, indifferent to the person standing there they just held up.
She screamed and the gunman pulled the trigger on my son. I'm commenting on this thread, because the semi-auto handgun mentioned here is among the junkers reported here. The gun misfired, my son heard the 'click', simultaneously the entire group of witnesses attacked the perps.
The handgun was a Jennings 9mm that misfired. It also fell apart as the gunman was trying to put it back together with the nickel plated slide falling off.
The woman sat on this kid until the Police arrived. They told us he had 24 prior arrests in Chicago alone. He plead guilty and he's doing 15 years.
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