Posted on 10/18/2012 2:45:10 AM PDT by Zakeet
The experience of the Catholic church, homosexual priests and boys shows that it doesn’t end well.
The experience of Penn State, Jerry Sandusky and boys shows it doesn’t end well.
The experience of the BSA itself, homosexual leaders and boys shows that it doesn’t end well.
Given all that, anyone agitating that the BSA should allow homosexual leaders is either too moronic to be allowed out of the institution unsupervised, or actively wishes to promote the molestation of boys and should be shot in sight.
This is really an attempt to make the Scouts look bad and look as if these crimes had been happening all along with their knowledge and therefor it wouldn’t matter if the BSA had gay Scoutmasters, etc.
It does appear that as soon as the Scouts had any idea that something bad was happening, they got rid of these guys. It doesn’t appear that they always reported them to the police, however, but that was very typical of the time when many of these crimes probably occurred (the 1980s and early 90s) because by then homosexuality had been declared ok and ephebophilia (basically, gay men going after young teenagers and boys) was just part of it.
The other problem, of course, is that child molesters are very good at “grooming” the adults around them, too - that is, accustoming them to seeing more and more interaction with the children, moving from things like taking an interest in the kids’ homework to inviting them to spend the weekend with them. They also are very good at picking the right parents, very often single women who are so grateful that any male is taking an interest in their kids that they probably don’t examine it too closely.
One problem with that though is that as far as I knew Sandusky wasn't an open homosexual. I prefer the BSA keeps its current policies as well but I've never seen the Sandusky argument as effective against open homosexuals for the reason above (it does work though to promote eternal vigilance).
The red flag is whenever a child’s authority figure tries to move the relationship into a personal friendship and begins to engage the child outside the exclusive purpose of their role as scout leader, teacher, coach, etc. For example. . .Sandusky “horsing around” in the shower. . .I tell you, had a coach ever showed up to take a shower with members of the team back in my day. . .he’d be limping out. . and then he would have met the “Parents Committee”. . after which he would have mysteriously disappeared into the swamp never to be heard from again. (I’ll let each of you interpret the meaning of “disappeared into the swamp.”)
“Yes, and I’m suspicious of men who continue to coach boys after their own are grown.”
Some of the best coaches I ever played for had no children on the team. They also made it clear that they were not “babysitters”. The Rules were always the same for parents:
1. Bring your own child to practice.
2. Be there PRIOR to the end of practice to pickup child.
3. The Coach gave rides to NO ONE.
4. If a parent was late, another parent had to stay with the coach and waiting child.
5. Another adult(parent/coach) MUST be at every practice/game.
This was years ago! It is called common sense.
Almost EVERY case of abuse has an isolation component where ONE adult is alone with ONE child. If every organization and parent put safeguards in place to prevent this isolation from ever taking place the opportunity for sexual abuse would disappear.
I am less suspicious of these men with grown children and am more disgusted with parents who want to dump kids for an hour, or two, so they don’t have to bother with them.
The boyscouts had sex rings of cooperative molestors.
If you look at the grooming techinques, you will find the adult sex activism in the public schools. They are grooming the children for sex with them and their pals.
The gay straight clubs give perverts the opportunity to groom and “progress” to giving them drugs and booze and special favors outside of school activities with studens. For example, in Mass. they take the sex club’s children from across the State to a gay prom in Boston and perverts have a field day.
The schools are one of the biggest threats to boys becuase it is the pervert teacher’s “civil right” and to groom other people’s children. This they say is to stop bullying and unsafe sex.
At a children’s gay sex club activist “education” event in Boston, one of the perverts leading a seminar was recorded telling the children (ages 13-19) that having your first experience of gay sex with an adult was the safest thing to do because adults know what they are doing and are more sensitive. Public schools are the perverts’ child sex meat factory.
That’s why the two deep leadership is more important than the ban on gay leaders. Banning gay leaders only stops the openly gay men. No molester in his right mind is going to admit it.
Goes to show that even with non-obvious homosexuals there’s still a potential for problems.
Liberals use the “for the children” for all kinds of extreme rules and regulations but when it comes to homosexuals and children they demand total freedom to assault our children. I mean, why can’t the BSA say “no homos, for the children” and get liberal cooperation when liberals say “for the children” and expect anything and everything goes?
I have an essay in mind titled something like, “Would you liberal Sanduskys please stop grooming our children?”
Then go into all of the social grooming for sexual predation the libtards promote, starting with “Prince and Prince” in kindergarten etc.
Calling pro-homo libtards “Sanduskys” is an effective meme, I think.
Sundusky isn’t a term that’s well known. “Pedophile”, however, might be.
Homosexuals don't reproduce ... they recruit.
Nasty stuff; I’m not familiar with Boston, but we have plenty of issues with this stuff in the NYC metro area as well. During the height of the Catholic Church’s scandal, Bill Donohue of the Catholic League demonstrated the media bias by highlighting one week in the NYC public school system in which five employees (teachers, custodians, etc.) were charged with molesting children. He wasn’t defending the actions of the priests, but simply pointing out how skewed the coverage was.
Unfortunately for many boys, the best defense against these crimes is to have a father and far too many are lacking that.
I aactually got in aheated arguemnt with a lib in my office who went out if his way to tell me that he sent his Eagle Scout medal back to the BSA because of the treatment of gay scoutmasters. He refused to believe that homsexuality had anything to do with child molestation.
I asked him how long he thought the Boy Scouts would survive as an organization once parents learn that they would be submitting their sons to a misquided experiment to see if he is right. He just got mad and stormed off. Typical.
You might leave a copy of “Little Boy Blue Devil” on his desk.
http://townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/2009/06/28/little_boy_blue_devil
Libs don’t let facts get in the way of their pet theories. Is there any evidence this guy was a Boy Scout, let alone an Eagle scout?
Perhaps any applicant over 24 for a scouting position should be asked for references from female sex partners.
Why am I not surprised. Homosexuals have had a long history of being pedophiles since Ancient Rome
Then he went and threw his war medals over the White House fence.(John Fn Kerry reference)
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