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1 posted on 10/15/2012 2:30:07 PM PDT by Arthurio
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Why do they always blame the voters? Is it the fault of people that want small government that the GOP never runs small government candidates? Put the blame where it belongs, the party and its candidates.


2 posted on 10/15/2012 2:33:49 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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If Libertarians want to do something profound, then they need to go get converts and not just be smug spoilers.

Europe is proof enough that handing the socialists victories does not end in a public epiphany to go in the opposite direction.

Leftists have been very successful being incremental and libertarians should keep that in mind. They should push to get more and more libertarian candidates, not take their ball and go home.


3 posted on 10/15/2012 2:36:05 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Grr!!! This makes me mad as this is exactly how we lost Slade Gorton to Maria-Can’t-Vote-Well. Some never to be remembered again Losertarian siphoned off Slade’s margin of victory (only 20 or 30K) and now we’ve had nearly two terms of Senatorial flatulence as a result. Slade wasn’t perfect, but he was a solid conservative. This was a big-big deal back in 2000 as it resulted in the 50/50 Senate split that hamstrung GWB’s first term, legislatively speaking, and now we’re going to pay again because the Bush tax cuts that would have been permanent with 51 Republican Senators are going to expire at the end of the year.


5 posted on 10/15/2012 2:41:20 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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I am a libertarian myself and anyone who votes for anyone besides Romney has s**t for brains.

The next president is going to be either Obama or Romney. NO ONE ELSE!!

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama and anyone who says there is no difference is not a serious person and just not even worth debating.

If you are not happy with Romney (as I am not) then WORK THAT MUCH HARDER in the next election cycle to get someone closer to your beliefs nominated.

So go ahead and pout libertarian. Go ahead and vote in a manner that helps get Romney defeated.

You are a loser anyway.


11 posted on 10/15/2012 2:59:03 PM PDT by 429CJ (.)
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Oh, great. Libertarians siphoning the vote. I shrug every time I heard the word Libertarians. Because I don’t know what they think they’re doing.


14 posted on 10/15/2012 3:25:40 PM PDT by righttackle44 ( I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine . . .)
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Democratic officials see the development as a major boon.

That says it all.

19 posted on 10/15/2012 3:51:28 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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polls show the Libertarian nominee poised to siphon a fraction of the vote — a small fraction, but potentially enough to tip the outcome in a cliffhanger.

L. Neil Smith's 2% solution. He's the first one I can recall proposing it as a strategy. Give me some time and I'll find the article.

Don't like it? Don't let RINOs run.

20 posted on 10/15/2012 3:53:11 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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Why is it that the Democrat Party is almost always referred to as the "Democratic Party"?

You never see or hear the Republican Party referred to as the "Republicanic Party".

24 posted on 10/15/2012 4:29:32 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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Blah, any cute Libertarian chics? :P


25 posted on 10/15/2012 4:31:29 PM PDT by AmericanSamurai
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I run in Libertarian circles and I am generally sympathetic to many of their positions, mostly economic and domestic. Libertarians add life and fresh ideas to intellectual debates and primary elections. But in general elections, Libertarians serve only to elect Democrats. In November, Libertarians are spoilers.


34 posted on 10/15/2012 6:08:41 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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Why would libertarians vote for a libertarian for President, someone who cannot win, and potentially hand Obama a second term, the anathema to all their beliefs?


44 posted on 10/15/2012 7:48:47 PM PDT by tbw2
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Libertarians rose to defeat John Thune in SD in 2002, and he rebounded in 2004. How does Johnson continue to serve all these years considering his health?


47 posted on 10/15/2012 8:02:12 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Annoy the Establishment! Vote for Akin!)
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