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To: 2ndDivisionVet
After opposing Romney all through the primary season and resisting giving him my support even when it became clear that he would be the GOP candidate, I now plan to vote for him.

This is not because he is a good choice for the presidency. My belief is that because of the sickening moral degradation of America, we are essentially doomed. I don't see any Great Awakening in the offing although God may forestall His wrath for a season as He did for King Josiah. No nation that sanctions the butchery of over 50 million children will long stand.

Romney's election may slightly slow the steady march to destruction and thus give us a short window of time in which we can better prepare ourselves for the coming judgment both spiritually and physically.

America doesn't appear in the cataclysmic endtime Bible prophecies. There's a reason.

7 posted on 10/15/2012 10:58:06 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (“How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: Dr. Thorne
After opposing Romney all through the primary season and resisting giving him my support even when it became clear that he would be the GOP candidate, I now plan to vote for him.

You know, I concede I've been "inwardly cheering" for Ryan (in debate vs. Biden)

The Democratic leadership is utterly dispicable. But I won't vote for either Obama or Romney.

This is not because he is a good choice for the presidency. My belief is that because of the sickening moral degradation of America, we are essentially doomed. I don't see any Great Awakening in the offing although God may forestall His wrath for a season as He did for King Josiah. No nation that sanctions the butchery of over 50 million children will long stand. Romney's election may slightly slow the steady march to destruction and thus give us a short window of time in which we can better prepare ourselves for the coming judgment both spiritually and physically.

Well, I believe you are right about judgment; and wrong about any comment of it "slowing" due to Romney's election.

Reread Exodus. Reread other OT books on God's reaction to when His people sanctioned false gods and high places where idol worship was embraced. Reread how Jewish king after Jewish king were EACH judged on key things like whether they allowed false worship centers to remain front & center in their culture.

Now fast-forward: Imagine you are God. Your people on earth sanction a guy who claims to be a competing god (in embryo). Is that any less provocative to you as God?

Unlike human jealousy, God's attribute of jealousy is pure and is based upon love and His "creator" right. He made us. We are His. And yet a goodly number of God's people will openly endorse and sanction a guy who says he's a "god in embryo" -- a rival "god" to THE God -- and they won't even give a caveat or qualifier about their vote...

And they think God will ignore that???

Our judgment bed was made well before November 2012.

27 posted on 10/15/2012 12:41:30 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Dr. Thorne

America doesn’t appear in the cataclysmic endtime Bible prophecies. There’s a reason.


A lot of people would disagree with you there.


32 posted on 10/15/2012 8:07:10 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Dr. Thorne

If we thought 1st term Obama is bad, we haven’t seen anything yet. 2nd term Obama has nothing to lose. Our constitutional republic is hanging by a thread. There won’t BE a 2016 if we don’t stop him from gaining more power.


36 posted on 10/16/2012 11:20:46 AM PDT by UltraV (I use the term Leftist not liberal, because a true liberal would not support government censorship.)
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To: Dr. Thorne
I tend to concur with you, either the blessings God put upon this land have run out or the Evil has found his current champions or both, how would we get to this point otherwise.

I will vote for Mitt, go home, take a long shower and fall to my knees in prayer that my pragmatic secular decision in this world is understood by the Almighty in his...

53 posted on 10/16/2012 3:00:16 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

I’m not going to say that tough times aren’t ahead, we are in them now imo.

But people talk about God judging nations and specifically America a lot and I’m just not sure it would be as brutal as some suggest. In the end time yes there will be a terrible time, but right now we are in a time when God is giving people, thus nations the opportunity to come to him through the preaching about Christ. I’m not sure I buy the Idea that America is going to be fried, not saying it will not happen, but as a believer I can petition God, that it not happen, and I believe he hears and answers me.

America has sinned terrible, as have most nations if not all. So if America is going down that path, aren’t all the rest too ?

I’m 100% a believer and I believe when the commandments and word of God are violated that there is a price to pay, but thank God he has made a way out, forgiveness, which God has freely given,( he wanted to give it, nobody made God do it) through the blood of Christ.

I would in no way say it is OK to disobey God’s word, and I do fear him. But if all this judgement is going on, how are some of these other countries still in existance ?

If we obey God, we will be blessed, if we don’t we will be cursed, that is clear.

Satan is the enemy and the destroyer and as believers we are to stand against him and be overcomers. I will do this and God we’ll be by my side, I have no doubt about that.

I like what one old preacher had to say. He said back when he was a kid in the 1930’s that people were saying that Satan is taking everything over in America. He would say no he’s not, because I’m not going to let him take me over.

Blessed be the name of God, the enemy is defeated !


54 posted on 10/16/2012 5:37:07 PM PDT by Carry me back
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