Permit me to answer the Muslim/Obama question. Keeping in mind that Colofornian cannot approach the topic of Mormonism objectively. Destroying Mormonism is his raison d’etre.
Islam means submit/submission and as a religion/philosophy is wholly incompatible with individual liberty. There isn’t any in Islam. It just isn’t accounted for and when accounted accounts for evil. Islam is diametrically opposed to the idea of America.
None of the Muslim issues swirling about Obama would matter if he acted like someone who likes America. He doesn’t, so his religious beliefs from Islam to Rev. Wright are all critical. It’s the ideas behind his actions.
Mormons on the other hand are a uniquely American religion. They are Restorationist in outlook. They see America as a special place where individual liberty was the precursor for the Restoration of “true Christianity”. They believe that Jesus Christ restored his Church on American soil because of, not in spite of the idea of America and American liberty.
Mormons view the Constitution as a God-inspired document. Muslims don’t and Obama doesn’t. To draw a moral equivalency to Romney/Mormonism and Islam/Liberation Theology/Obama is absurd on its face. The litmus test isn’t in the Constitution, but it is in someone’s actions and beliefs. Romney’s line up with America and Obama’s against.
Colofornian because of your monomania about Mormonism you cannot see that. I don’t expect you to. I expect you to continue to rant and rave about it. The only reason I’m responding is to clarify the issue, not to convince you.
(And I suppose that you -- a Joseph Smith disciple of some stripe...and one who won't readily confess that in a context like FR...are "objective" about Mormonism???)
Mormons on the other hand are a uniquely American religion. They are Restorationist in outlook. They see America as a special place where individual liberty was the precursor for the Restoration of “true Christianity”. They believe that Jesus Christ restored his Church on American soil because of, not in spite of the idea of America and American liberty. Mormons view the Constitution as a God-inspired document. Muslims don’t and Obama doesn’t.
Allow me to "translate" "restorationist" for non-Mormons.
Lds materials left and right couple "THE restoration" with a so-called "universal apostasy that in the Mormon mind lasted almost 1800 years. (Yes, that means in the Mormon worldview that the very men who were behind this nation's constitution -- and the Christian churches that most of them were indeed a part of -- are deemed by Lds as "apostates.")
So when 1010rd talks about "true Christianity" being "restored," he means that Lds leaders soundly accuse all Christian sects of practicing "untrue" Christianity...Christian men who Joseph Smith of being "corrupt" as professors of Christianity...as in 100% of such men!
Mormons view the Constitution as a God-inspired document.
Let us "check under the hood" for context of this Mormon claim. Lds indeed believe that the U.S. Constitution was raised up for the very purpose that Mormon "saints" could come along, declare the Christian gospel void & false & 100% of Christian creeds "abominable," and insert the Mormon "gospel" [of legalism] in its place.
They do on the basis of Lds "scriptural" passages like Doctrine & Covenants 101:77-80...and a prayer for the Constitution in D&C 109:54.
So allow us to devote a little time to the context of those verses...and what falls in between. Let's start with D&C 101...A # of verses after vv. 77-80, Joseph Smith threatened that if the Missouri governor and U.S. President refused to hear the importunities of Lds saints..."and if the president heed them not, then will the Lord arise and come forth out of his hiding place, and in his fury vex the nation..." (v. 89)
By four chapters later in the D.C., Joseph Smith was still threatening the Missouri -- and later the nation thru the following words that got encrypted into Lds temple rituals thru 1926...when George Romney was 19 years old: "...throwing down the towers of mine enemies that may be upon them, and scattering their watchmen, and avenging me of mine enemies unto the third and fourth generation...But first let my army [the Mormon militia] become very great...and that her banners may be terrible unto all nations..." (D&C 105:30-31)
The Lds temple ritual thru 1926 included the phrasing of Mormons vowing in their sacred temples that they would take the Mormon god's "vengeance" upon this nation -- and implement this unto the ensuing third and fourth generations.
I also mentioned D&C 109:54 having a Mormon prayer for the Constitution; well, 19 verses later -- D&C 109:73...Smith said: "That thy church may come forth out of the wilderness of darkness...and terrible as an army with banners;"
You see, Joseph Smith's "worldview" of this period (1834 thru early 1836) was that "the earth is given unto the [Latter-day] saints, to possess it forever and ever." (D&C 103:7)
So just as Mormons have usurped the very purpose of the U.S. Constitution as one applying primarily to the establishment of the Mormon church & gospel; likewise, the very property of ALL the earth is for the purpose of Mormon possession.
And, as we can see from Lds "scriptures" D&C 105:31 and 109:73, Joseph Smith's vision was that Mormons would become a major militia -- and become a "terrible" army unto the nations.
Smith's Illinois Mormon militia in the early to mid 1840s was larger than any military outfit in the region.
He was on his way to such an attempt when, having expended one gun and in possession of a second weapon, he died in a shootout.