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GM Bailout Could Be Undone By Same Judge That Allowed It
The Washington Free Beacon via Conservativewanderer.com ^ | Oct. 8 2012

Posted on 10/09/2012 5:42:35 AM PDT by equaviator

From the “how’s that for irony” file comes a report that the judge that signed off on the GM bailout has been having second thoughts, because — surprise, surprise, surprise — he wasn’t informed about part of the deal.

The Washington Free Beacon reports:

As GM teetered on the edge of bankruptcy in June 2009, it cut a $367 million “lock-up agreement” with several major creditors in order to prevent its Canadian subsidiary from going under. The move spared the subsidiary from fulfilling the $1 billion debt it owed the creditors—major hedge funds—ensuring that GM would not have to face bankruptcy courts in two nations, which could have delayed the company’s recovery.

The trustee for (old GM) creditors shortchanged by the government-driven bankruptcy are now suing the hedge funds in a move that could undo the bailout.

“Many U.S. creditors waived their rights to object because the government wanted to push through the bailout for political reasons,” risk analyst Chris Whalen said. “If they had continued through normal channels, they could have easily been in bankruptcy for five years. So they made sure these issues were not adequately briefed before the court.”

The GM that exited bankruptcy was radically different than the one that entered. The Treasury Department arranged for the company to split into Motors Liquidation Co., known as “old GM,” and created a “new GM” with the help of $30 billion from American taxpayers. Judge Robert Gerber, who approved the sale with little hesitation, could now reverse the entire auto bailout—and overturn one of President Barack Obama’s signature achievements.

“When I approved the sale agreement and entered the sale approval order I mistakenly thought that I was merely saving GM, the supply chain, and about a million jobs. It never once occurred to me, and nobody bothered to disclose, that amongst all of the assigned contracts was this lock-up agreement, if indeed it was assigned at all,” Gerber said in July.

Well, what do you know, the Obama Administration didn’t reveal all the details to the judge. Is anyone surprised that this gang of Chicago thugs decided that the judge didn’t need to know the sweetheart deal that would save their union buddies?

It sounds like Judge Gerber is ready to reopen the whole thing, essentially forcing GM into a real bankruptcy, including having to pay back the $27 billion to the Treasury… which, given that they only have about $30 billion on hand, could spell the end of GM.

If we’re lucky, this will come apart very soon… just in time for the non-political-wonks to read the news as they’re deciding whether or not Obama deserves a second term.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: generalmotors; gm; gmbailout; govtmotors; obamalies; robertgerber
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To: equaviator
It sounds like the judge is providing cover for himself in advance. If a new admin. takes a close look at the GM deal and asks how a judge could possibly approve it now the judge can say he didn't have all the information or he never..do you hear me?...never would've agreed.

Well, as a judge he is supposed to ask, under oath, if there is anything he is not being told pertinent to his decisions.

But there will be no undoing. No one will want to cause any economic tremors.

21 posted on 10/09/2012 6:40:42 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: madison10

This needs to be left alone, because if it gets out prior to the election it will NOT help Romney/Ryan.

That’s not what this is about.


22 posted on 10/09/2012 6:41:53 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: circlecity
They’ll get to the Judge. It won’t go anywhere.

Maybe, maybe not. If it looks increasingly like Obama is going to lose and drag the Democrats down with him, then he becomes a powerless lame duck. If that happens, more and more people will feel emboldened to stick it to him.

The debate and the latest polls may have shown a tipping point. He's got lots of people pissed off, but afraid to go against the Chicago Machine. If the fear goes away, then he's hosed.

23 posted on 10/09/2012 6:43:10 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

‘zackly.
GM will survive but likely with new owners and not the UAW.


24 posted on 10/09/2012 6:44:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: justlurking

So they can blame Romney if he wns


25 posted on 10/09/2012 6:45:45 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: arichtaxpayer
On the other hand, my husband is a Delphi Salaried Retiree member. We have been in court for 2 years to get their pension back. Sloooooooooow process.

It would be sweet justice for the salaried people to get their pensions, and the UAW pensions be cut accordingly.

26 posted on 10/09/2012 6:46:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: equaviator

This smells a lot like CYA on the part of the judge.


27 posted on 10/09/2012 6:47:57 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: autumnraine

GM ‘paid’ their creditors 36 cents on the dollar to go away, so their Canadian operations wouldn’t have to go bankrupt.

The bond holders that got screwed in the original ‘bankruptcy’ cried foul! They are now going after the creditors who got paid off to get their money, since in a normal bankruptcy the bond holders come before plain creditors..................


28 posted on 10/09/2012 6:49:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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To: count-your-change

“But there will be no undoing. No one will want to cause any economic tremors.”

Okay but who said anything about what anybody wants?

If there was misappropriation, then it’s a matter of judicious duty to uphold the law one way or the other. If the information was indeed withheld then this case should be formally revisited.


29 posted on 10/09/2012 6:55:24 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

Then what IS this about? Paying back the bond holders? Could this not be done some other way than bankruptcy?


30 posted on 10/09/2012 6:59:32 AM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

“Could this not be done some other way than bankruptcy?”

It IS what it is.


31 posted on 10/09/2012 7:05:17 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator
Had the courts been really concerned with judicial duty GM would've gone through a normal bankruptcy and the taxpayers would not be unwilling partners with the UAW.
32 posted on 10/09/2012 7:05:52 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: equaviator

The whole GM deal was illegal in many ways. First in line creditors are the bond-holders.....they had their investments stolen. Illegal precedent.

Yes, this judge is doing CYA - but he was guilty of an illegal ruling in the first place. Notice the reason he gave for doing it: saving GM and jobs.

The law had nothing to do with his ruling.

Typical liberal.


33 posted on 10/09/2012 7:17:09 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: justlurking
You said: “Once you trace the various article references back to the WSJ source, the last paragraph of that article states:”

“Those following the trial, including several people who wouldn’t speak on the record for this article, think it is unlikely Judge Gerber would rule on the matter before the November election.”

I'm not positive, but it looks to me that these are two DIFFERENT articles about the same subject. The Washington Free Beacon article does not reference or credit the WSJ article, that I can find. They both appear to be original articles.

The conclusion at the end of the WSJ article”

“Several people” WOW, credible source.

“wouldn’t speak on the record” WOW REALLY credible

Let's be “Fair & Balanced”

Several people, who have followed this on FreeRepublic, who are WILLING to speak ,on the record (using their screen names), “Think that judge Gerber WOULD rule on the matter before the November election”, thus canceling out your conclusion.

Actually my conclusion is STRONGER than yours, I WIN!

34 posted on 10/09/2012 7:24:47 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Arlis
Yes, this judge is doing CYA - but he was guilty of an illegal ruling in the first place. Notice the reason he gave for doing it: saving GM and jobs.

The law had nothing to do with his ruling.

That was my first thought as well when I saw that quote. In a just land, that judge would be impeached.

35 posted on 10/09/2012 7:27:51 AM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: count-your-change

JudicIAL...yeah that’s the word I should have used...

“Had the courts been really concerned with judicial duty GM would’ve gone through a normal bankruptcy and the taxpayers would not be unwilling partners with the UAW.”

The Obamastration kind of usurped the bankruptcy court’s position and authority to do that as I understand it. And wasn’t GM also compliant with the process? The same went for Chrysler or am I oblivious to some of the (il)legalities involved. I’m not a lawyer or a businessman so I assume there’s a lot more to it.


36 posted on 10/09/2012 7:34:45 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator
I'm no lawyer either...my only virtue...but this fuller quote from the same source as the post my help:

“The Washington Free Beacon reports:

As GM teetered on the edge of bankruptcy in June 2009, it cut a $367 million “lock-up agreement” with several major creditors in order to prevent its Canadian subsidiary from going under. The move spared the subsidiary from fulfilling the $1 billion debt it owed the creditors—major hedge funds—ensuring that GM would not have to face bankruptcy courts in two nations, which could have delayed the company’s recovery.

The trustee for (old GM) creditors shortchanged by the government-driven bankruptcy are now suing the hedge funds in a move that could undo the bailout.

“Many U.S. creditors waived their rights to object because the government wanted to push through the bailout for political reasons,” risk analyst Chris Whalen said. “If they had continued through normal channels, they could have easily been in bankruptcy for five years. So they made sure these issues were not adequately briefed before the court.”

The GM that exited bankruptcy was radically different than the one that entered. The Treasury Department arranged for the company to split into Motors Liquidation Co., known as “old GM,” and created a “new GM” with the help of $30 billion from American taxpayers. Judge Robert Gerber, who approved the sale with little hesitation, could now reverse the entire auto bailout—and overturn one of President Barack Obama’s signature achievements.

“When I approved the sale agreement and entered the sale approval order I mistakenly thought that I was merely saving GM, the supply chain, and about a million jobs. It never once occurred to me, and nobody bothered to disclose, that amongst all of the assigned contracts was this lock-up agreement, if indeed it was assigned at all,” Gerber said in July.”

The “lock-up” agreements are secret but binding agreements that the creditors entered into that they, apparently would not press too hard for payment, made to keep Canada GM out of bankruptcy. Now the creditors not part of the secret deals feel they were burned and want some money from the creditors, hedge funds, that had these secret deals and the judge says, If only I had known.
Well, Judge, that's why you're a judge and have a staff.

In short..How come you get a better deal than me?

37 posted on 10/09/2012 7:57:49 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: equaviator

Judge Greber is not a judge, but a populist politician in black robes. His job isn’t to “save” GM or jobs, but to adjudicate a bankruptcy to the benefit of creditors.

More judicial tyranny does not a republic make. Now he’s embarrassed at his lack of judicial ethics and basic economics. We’re a capitalist society and if you don’t pay the capitalists they’ll depart.

Of course, GM’s union employees will be unemployed just in time for Romney’s term to begin. So Judge Greber makes my point doubly.


38 posted on 10/09/2012 8:05:46 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: TYVets
Last time the bond holders got screwed.

So many people got screwed it would be a big job to list them all.

Don't forget the many profitable dealerships Obama ordered closed and the jobs he killed.

Over 2,000 GM and Chrysler dealerships were closed putting 1000,000 people out of work, and destroying the equity value of these small businesses. If anyone wants proof of his disdain for small business owners just read the history of this "Grand Theft Auto".

The entire auto crisis was manipulated by Obama to steal property from the rightful owners, investors and creditors and hand it over to the UAW.

It would be interesting to see how many of the people Obama bankrupted, stole pensions from, and put out of work will still vote for him this time around.

And the cruel irony is, that GM and the country would be better off today if GM had just gone through the normal bankruptcy procedure. But that would not have rewarded the labor unions for the support they gave Obama in 2008.


39 posted on 10/09/2012 8:08:51 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obamaspeak: An army of pompous phrases marching across the landscape in search of an idea.)
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To: arichtaxpayer

Aren’t there companies that will give you the current cash value of your Delphi pension in exchange for the future payments and a life insurance policy?


40 posted on 10/09/2012 8:09:32 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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