[TurboZamboni]

Obama's NSA eavesdropping goes beyond that of Bush... after campaigning on the promise of: " No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me!"

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

" NSA Exceeds Legal Limits In Eavesdropping Program" , " U.S. phone intercepts go beyond legal limits" , and "NSA Found Improperly Spying on Americans".

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123985123667923961.html?mod=googlenews_wsjhttp://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE53F09820090416

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/justice-dept-nsa-improperly-spied-americans/

ACLU: Warrantless electronic surveillance surges under Obama

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/333831

[Diogenesis]

SSDD.

"Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition"

[Bon mots]

[RJS1950]

The National Socialist Democrat Party and their Fuehrer have built the narrative that Bush started this so that they can blame him while their Gestapo prepares to begin collecting citizens they consider to be a threat to their regime. The situation is exactly what my grandmother found when she temporarily returned to Germany in the 1930s.

FUBO & FAD

[rawcatslyentist]

Now if they could just get them all together somewhere near Waco.......

[txrefugee]

The Dept. of Homeland Security is a threat to freedom far worse than any foreign country. Dismantle it. Fire everyone. They will never keep us safe and their efforts only take away our freedom.

[QBFimi]

The crown jewel, huh? What a tribe of idiots. For a reality check, try Marc Goodman’s presentation on ted.com. Well worth the time:

http://www.ted.com/talks/marc_goodman_a_vision_of_crimes_in_the_future.html

[Sherman Logan]

A multibillion-dollar information-sharing program created in the aftermath of 9/11 has improperly collected information about innocent Americans

Sorry, folks.

This is the difference between gathering intelligence to prevent attacks and gathering it for purposes of prosecuting the attackers.

By definition, the only way to determine whether a particular person or group are "innocent Americans" or "terrorists" is to investigate them. Gather sufficient data to make that determination.

These reports generally imply that there is some magical way for investigators to know in advance which group is which and therefore which ones to investigate. There isn't.

Which is not to say that information can't be misused.

[Candor7]

This program is tantamount to establishing warrentless searches, contrary to the Constitution.

If there is no probabale cause, they need to leave the citizens of the country alone, and private.

DHS is about starting a civil war, which is in effect what Obama and the left want.

[bamahead]

Libertarian ping.