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The Gospel of Jesus’ Wife? When Sensationalism Masquerades as Scholarship
AlbertMohler.com ^ | 9/20/12 | R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 09/22/2012 12:41:56 PM PDT by rhema

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To: HerrBlucher
Besides, there could be missing words that put it into context such as “take” and “please.”

Along with the indispensable <rimshot>.

<rimshot>

21 posted on 09/22/2012 1:47:59 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: rhema

Gnosticism that attempted to distort and discredit Christianity (lied in other words) was very active during the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th century A.D..


22 posted on 09/22/2012 1:48:42 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Honorary Serb
I wonder how her views would have been accepted at the Council of Nikea.
23 posted on 09/22/2012 2:05:24 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Sherman Logan
I believe the author is correct, and you are mistaken.

The belief that the material world is evil is very much in tune with modern "spirituality," particularly if ritual sexual practice replaces celibacy in the ascetic. The rationale for that approach is that sex is a transcendent spiritual act which, correctly used, is integral to overcoming the material.

This is the essence of the heresy propounded in Holy Blood, Holy Grail and stolen so shamelessly by Dan Brown. Its appeal is clearly demonstrated by the publishing success of the original, and of the plagiarist DaVinci Code. It's no sillier than the belief that anything created by God could be intrinsically evil, or that God would allow the material world to be created by an evil demiurge (among many Gnostic variations.)

If you want to object that this is not "original" Gnosticism, I would say that historically I'm not sure that's true; there are, as you observe, many variations of this heresy. But even if I stipulate to the hypothetical that it isn't originalist Gnosticism, it is very much in keeping with the modern, buffet approach to "spirituality," maintaining that materialism is evil -- except for the fun parts.

24 posted on 09/22/2012 2:05:39 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
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To: thulldud; HerrBlucher
In the same vein:

"You kiddin' me? He's the Son of God, he's got a Jewish Mother. You really think any girl he brought home was good enough? Please."

25 posted on 09/22/2012 2:09:55 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Who ya gonna believe? Your metrosexual smartphone or your lyin' eyes?)
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To: rhema

I was always taught the the Bride of Christ was the Church.


26 posted on 09/22/2012 2:25:20 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: FredZarguna

I have no doubt that a lot of moderns are attracted to what they think the Gnostics believed.

I just sincerely doubt many of those who do have much of any idea of what the Gnostics really did believe. They project modern viewpoints into the past and think, “They were just like me!”

This is much like modern “indigenous peoples” who romanticize their ancestors. I suspect any modern Indian or Hawaiian who actually got to meet his Iroquois, Comanche or Polynesian forebears would be appalled.

Just as I would be by my Viking and Irish ancestors.

Anyway, I stand by my assertion that upper-class twits living a 21st century life of luxury and sexual indulgence that only kings enjoyed in the 3rd century have little in common with Gnostics who believed the path to salvation was absolute poverty and celibacy.

These moderns may talk a good game about living a simpler life, but with perhaps rare exceptions they always want someone else to live that life.


27 posted on 09/22/2012 2:27:56 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: rhema

The hilarity of this is that claiming a random 4th century manuscript, fragmentary or not, has inherent Gospel-level authority is like claiming something must be true because you read it on the Internet.


28 posted on 09/22/2012 2:42:30 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: rhema
What's a good estimate of how many people who dismiss out-of-hand the Shroud of Turin (and I'm a skeptic - I just don't know) will jump on this as proof-positive before a full examination?

They had real good eyesight back then, huh? It can be read with a magnifying glass? How'd someone write it?

29 posted on 09/22/2012 3:10:53 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: rhema

Yeah, ALL of the Apostles simply forgot to mention that minor detail/sarc off


30 posted on 09/22/2012 3:49:34 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: rhema

About a year ago I subscribed to the Smithsonian magazine, and rather quickly became uneasy about its content and general tone.


31 posted on 09/22/2012 4:10:37 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: LukeSW

The only way to conclude with certainty that Jesus was married, using your kind of reasoning, is to accept the premise that in those days all men were married.


32 posted on 09/22/2012 4:21:07 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: Honorary Serb
Read her bio, and you’ll get some idea what her “research” is worth.

Among the list...Coptic studies.

Who'd have thunk it?

Maybe they will turn her into a orthodox Christian.

33 posted on 09/22/2012 4:34:37 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: HerrBlucher
Besides, there could be missing words that put it into context such as “take” and “please.”

Along with a partially decipherable attribution to one H-n-y -oun-ma-

34 posted on 09/22/2012 5:38:39 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: RaisingCain
If He had a wife, He would be home all the time and working to support the family, living the perfect married man’s life which puts his wife on an equal measure with himself.

Good point. Also, if Jesus had a wife and family they would have been revered and perhaps worshiped as deities themselves. The Catholics already do that with his mother; can you imagine if he had a wife and kids, grandkids, great grandkids...?

35 posted on 09/22/2012 6:07:50 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: rhema

...”How can I believe the story of Jesus when it was written decades after his death?”
...”Ooooh, look! A centuries-old scrap of paper that contradicts the Gospels—it must be true!!”


36 posted on 09/22/2012 6:17:35 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: rhema

Can some artist here come up with a picture of activists putting a gun to Cathy’s head demanding he support them? That is what it seems like they want to do.


37 posted on 09/22/2012 6:27:14 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: beelzepug

Precicely. And the more one studies the Bible, the clearer and more blatant it becomes.


38 posted on 09/22/2012 7:02:15 PM PDT by Luircin (Don't like Romney? Blame the conservative circular firing squad.)
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To: randog
The Catholics already do that with his(sic) mother

An urban legend perpetuated by the ignorant.

39 posted on 09/22/2012 7:16:12 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: humblegunner
You just like to bitch and moan when the prunes and All-Bran don't work.

One more time:

If it's just a generic repost, then we follow the four hour guideline.

40 posted on 09/22/2012 7:19:28 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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