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To: Yosemitest

There are several problems with the whole losing now may be good eventually for the party, for conservatives, and for the nation.

One is the Supreme Court. I don’t know that a President McCain would have nominated good judges, and if he did if he could have gotten them confirmed. Same for Romney should he win. But we know how horrible Sotomayor and Kagan are, and that was a huge opportunity lost to finally right the Court. Now we have decades of insane, activist, power-usurping jurisprudence from these two. If Obama wins again, then he’ll replace Ginsburg for sure. Breyer might retire too. That would mean we lost the chance to replace every one of the most recent liberal retirements. If Kennedy or Scalia were to retire, then it’s over as far as the Court goes. Gay marriage will be imposed on the entire nation (though that may happen now with the threat of Kennedy or Roberts jumping ship). The Second Amendment victories will be reversed and in its place the worthless collective right interpretation will reign. Inevitable ‘anti-hate’ speech laws will be sanctioned. And so on and so on.

Another thing to consider is Obamacare. For it to be overturned Romney must win and the GOP must retake the Senate. Otherwise it stands and it will never be overturned.

And finally there are the mass immigration-driven demographic shifts that are favoring the Democrats, and making it harder for the GOP and conservatives each cycle. I don’t know if a Romney loss would result in the party ‘moderating’ (i.e. going left) even more, or if it would mean we get a real conservatives in 2016. But either way, the country and electorate will be less white, and that won’t be good for the GOP or conservatives.


46 posted on 09/19/2012 6:23:09 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius
Tell it to the "Establishment Republicans".
There the ones that backed him, so they can vote him in.
They didn't want Conservatives, so they don't get conservatives!
49 posted on 09/19/2012 6:36:42 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Aetius
Excellent points, especially about the Supreme Court.


Ruth Bader Ginsburg, age 79 (and fighting pancreatic cancer)
Antonin Scalia, age 76
Anthony Kennedy, age 75
Stephen Breyer, age 74
Clarence Thomas, age 64
Samuel Alito, age 62
Sonia Sotomayor, age 58
John Roberts, age 57
Elena Kagan, age 52

The odds are pretty good that 3 or possibly even 4 of them will retire during the next administration, either to replaced by Obama or Romney.

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52 posted on 09/19/2012 6:49:22 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: Aetius
We live in a world where there are real terrorists lurking in the vicinity of DC. They can walk in there and take out Congress, or the Supreme Court, or maybe a couple of federal agencies (at the top) without a whole lot of effort.

We see the problems State Department has defending its ambassadors and others in the Middle East. We have well over 100,000 Iranians, Afghanis, as well as other Moslem and Arab speaking people in the DC area. I have no idea how many of them are "safe' but they are all relatively easy to compromise.

Could be that we might be doing business without any of the top officers of state sometime in the next 4 years.

So, the question could well be ~ who, in Nebraska, is going to take over and when will we run the next election.

58 posted on 09/19/2012 7:19:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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