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My Take: It’s time for Islamophobic evangelicals to choose (Projectile Vomit Alert!)
CNN.com ^ | 15 September 2012 | Brian D. McLaren

Posted on 09/17/2012 12:30:24 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa

I was raised as an evangelical Christian in America, and any discussion of Christian-Jewish-Muslim relations around the world must include the phenomenon of American Islamophobia, for which large sectors of evangelical Christianity in America serve as a greenhouse.

At a time when U.S. embassies are being attacked and when people are getting killed over an offensive, adolescent and puerile film targeting Islam - beyond pathetic in its tawdriness – we must begin to own up to the reality of evangelical Islamaphobia.

Many of my own relatives receive and forward pious-sounding and alarm-bell-ringing e-mails that trumpet (IN LOTS OF CAPITAL LETTERS WITH EXCLAMATION POINTS!) the evils of Islam, that call their fellow evangelicals and charismatics to prayer and “spiritual warfare” against those alleged evils, and that often - truth be told - contain lots of downright lies.

For example, one recent e-mail claimed “Egyptian Christians in Grave Danger as Muslim Brotherhood Crucifies Opponents." Of course, that claim has been thoroughly debunked, but the sender’s website still (as of Friday) claims that the Muslim Brotherhood has “crucified those opposing" Egyptian President Mohamed Morsy "naked on trees in front of the presidential palace while abusing others.”

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To: bassmaner
This particular Leftwingtard moron commits several moral crimes and possibly even something actionable by ascribing any of this to the "film".

Last year on Coptic New Years there were islamofascist fanatics and morons running about Egypt murdering Copts ~ and that was scheduled to happen this year as well ~ happens on 9/11, more or less, but the Coptic calendar is not in synch with the Western religious calendars so the day will vary. They are also 8 years behind!

For some reason the Egyptian mob that'd been gathered to murder Copts in Cairo, maybe even burn them alive in their churches as they have been known to do, got all tied up demonstrating at the US embassy.

Bet that tied some knots in the mullahs' dhottis but whom am I to judge.

Regarding crucifixion, just the day before some AlQaida pukes in Yemen say they'd assassinated another Yemeni for spying on them and helping guide our drones to their targets.

So, yes they do crucify folks ~ known to do it as a matter of course ~ and in the Middle East Moslems are entitled by their religion to engage in private murders commited against their family members or people who are not the ruling clique's brand of islam.

41 posted on 09/17/2012 1:19:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ConorMacNessa; All




PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER!!!






Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

42 posted on 09/17/2012 1:21:17 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Ouderkirk

And, you had better FEAR Islam as well.


43 posted on 09/17/2012 1:21:35 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadowIs of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Hmmmm, .223 or .308.

Decisions, decisions.

44 posted on 09/17/2012 1:22:50 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: righttackle44

AMEN and AMEN


45 posted on 09/17/2012 1:24:23 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadowIs of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: henkster

Read the book Bonhoeffer by Eric Metaxas, the story about a true Christian martyr and a real model of resistance and staying true to the Gospel. Does this guy’s story in any way emulate that Bonhoeffer story. There were many McClarens in Germany 1933 to 1945, kowtowing to the Nazis, encouraging Christians to accept their servitude and accept a false evil gospel, to remain passive and allow yourself to be subjugated. To circle a square and say Nazism and its dedication to the goal of a socialist utopia was what Jesus would want. To ignore the atrocities, the anti Semitism, the hate, the violence. This man is coming very close to committing the unpardonable sin, blaspheming the Holy Spirit, attributing God’s word as evil and incomplete, saying the pure words of our Lord are really wrong, intolerant and that he Saint McClaren is the oracle of what God would want. I think if Jesus were here to walking among us today Islam would be the first thing he would address, refute, discredit and grind to dust.


46 posted on 09/17/2012 1:26:12 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: ConorMacNessa
Hey Mr. "I was raised an evangelical" ... do you not know that most evangelicals believe in the visible return of the Lord Jesus Christ to the earth?

What do you think happens when He returns?

When He returns there will no longer be an Islam. So the very idea of evangelical islamophobia is silly. We may fear for our lives if they should take over the world ... but in the end ... Islam will be destroyed.

47 posted on 09/17/2012 1:26:27 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: ConorMacNessa
Mr. McLaren just wasted 45 seconds of my life.

5.56mm

48 posted on 09/17/2012 1:27:00 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: ConorMacNessa
"...any discussion of Christian-Jewish-Muslim relations around the world must include the phenomenon of American Islamophobia..."

Surely the author of this passage understands that "Islamophobia" had been part and parcel of the Western World for nearly 1300 years. John Smith (of Jamestown and Pocahontas fame) was a Muslim slave until he broke free. The Moors captured American sailors until Thomas Jefferson, et al, sent our Marines to squash those budding terrorists. I suspect our forefathers didn't write anything in the Constitution about not covering this plague on mankind by the First Amendment because they never dreamed that their descendants would invite this pestilence onto our shores with open arms...

All of that being said, I once read someone say that a Christian's attitude to Islam is to take this as an acrostic for "I sincerely love all Muslims" ...
It might seem hard, but Christ loved us - all who were the worst of sinners. The Muslims really don't know what they are doing. They know there IS a God (give them credit where credit is due), but they've had this satanic book foisted upon them and they are trapped. Those Muslims brave enough to break their chains get an automatic death sentence (not always carried out - but they get the death sentence, nonetheless). I was reading a book (Secret Believers) about a Muslim Brotherhood member who burned churches and attacked Christian Arabs whenever he could. He was such a 'good' zealot, and also intelligent, that his mullah gave him the task to read the Bible to write a pamphlet about how the Bible had obviously been corrupted. He took his assignment with zeal, but after the reading, and the studying, of the Bible for many months, and comparing it to his Koran ... he realized that the Bible was the truth and Jesus Christ was God's Son and Saviour of the world. He became a strong witness for awhile ... but then his old brotherhood members tracked him down and disemboweled him for leaving their cult...
So pray for the Christians in these areas, and for the Muslims who have converted, and also pray for those Muslims trapped in their cult -- they really don't know what they are doing.

49 posted on 09/17/2012 1:27:44 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: ConorMacNessa
I don't have “Islamophobia”...I have “Islamonausea.” As defined by the dictionary this is:

“...sickness at the stomach, especially when accompanied by a loathing for food and an involuntary impulse to vomit.
extreme disgust; loathing; repugnance.”

Every time I think about Islam and the 7th Century barbarian animals that believe in it I get this reaction.

I've been suffering from Islamonausea since at least September 11th, 2001.

The only thing that seems to help me get over my recurring bouts of Islamonausea is to think thoughts about how much better the whole world would be if all 1.2 Billion of them just vanished from the Earth.

50 posted on 09/17/2012 1:33:42 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (I need a new tagline...please help.)
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To: Towed_Jumper

“Every time I think about Islam and the 7th Century barbarian animals that believe in it I get this reaction.”

I break out in this desire to bath them in the cleansing fire of the atom- until Arabic is a language only spoken in hell.


51 posted on 09/17/2012 2:06:03 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

A phobia is a baseless or unwarranted fear. “Islamophobia” is self-preservation in its purest form. They will enslave or kill you if they get the chance. So it is not a phobia, it is a survival strategy.


52 posted on 09/17/2012 2:20:10 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ConorMacNessa
I'd say the true Islamophobes are the appeasers who desperately hope their grovelling will save them from the crocodile.

In other words, Islamophobes are the likes of Mr. McLaren.

53 posted on 09/17/2012 2:26:35 PM PDT by Hunton Peck ("Blasphemy" is to Islam as "swiftboating" is to Democrats: The speaking of truth to liars.)
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To: LeonardFMason

Brian just was taking a page from Caroline Kennedy’s book at the recent DNC.

Remember, she spoke at the convention as “a Catholic woman” who was worried about the War on Women and said she feared that contraceptives would be taken away from women if Obama did not win the elction.

The biggest war within the USA is against all faithful Christian people who believe in Jesus Christ and walk the walk, not those like Caroline, Brian, Nancy Pelosi, etc..


54 posted on 09/17/2012 2:27:26 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: ConorMacNessa

Yea you guys, stop it with the Islamophobia!

Its like you think they are a bunch of crazies that believe in violence to forward their religion. Its a irrational fear that they will fly aircraft into skyscrapers or explode truck bombs. Just stop the hate!

Don’t you are realize that you are forcing these peaceful people (far more so than Christians or Jews) into a murderouse rampage? Just stop it your haters!


55 posted on 09/17/2012 2:29:30 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: pburgh01

I have a degree in German, and studied history extensively. I am quite familiar with Bonhoeffer. Your comparison of Bonhoeffer with this McLaren guy is spot on. McLaren would make an excellent “Biedermann” in the screenplay “Biedermann und die Brannstifter.”


56 posted on 09/17/2012 2:57:53 PM PDT by henkster (With Carter, the embassy staff was still alive.)
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To: ScottinVA
Do you think old brian is a butt pirate or would he just let one soak until the swelling went down?

LLS

57 posted on 09/17/2012 3:23:55 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Hey Bryan McClarin...try to pedal that crap in a Muslim country and we’ll place bets on how fast you are beheaded, idiot!


58 posted on 09/17/2012 3:27:21 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: Fledermaus

typo: McLaren


59 posted on 09/17/2012 3:28:05 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: pburgh01

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)

“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet”.

LLS


60 posted on 09/17/2012 3:28:28 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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