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To: Kaslin
anybody who uses religion to stir up hate, is not a true believer. And certainly Christians who do so are not true Christians.

He is right on that singular point, and dead wrong on everything else.

8 posted on 09/16/2012 9:48:46 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Romney was right about the Olympics, but neither the Brits or the Dems will admit it.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Be careful Michael. Intelligent discourse on any subject could be subjectively viewed as religious hate speech. No speech, no matter how vile to the ears of the hearer or whatever feelings they unleash, should promulgate violence. In our society, free speech is not dependent on whether it makes someone angry and I find it ironic that someone like Bill Press who consistently pushes the idea of separation of church and state would find it somehow necessary to define who are “true Christians.”

Bill Press is certainly no one I would look to teach Bible doctrine. For someone who supports the murder of the unborn and homosexual marriage, Bill Press has zero credibility with respect to Christian faith. So how would he know what a true Christian is? He can’t. He is blind spiritually. Christ said, “Unless a man is born again (Greek: ‘from above’), he cannot SEE the kingdom of God. Therefore Press has no authority to make any pronouncements in this area because Press directly contradicts Holy Biblical Scripture in his personal views. Christ said we would know His disciples by their fruits. Concerning Press, the Bible says:

“These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.” Jude 1:12-13

Stating that Mohammed is a false prophet and Allah is nothing more than one of the pantheon of gods in pre-Islamic Arabia chosen because he was one of the most popular - may make 1.2 billion Muslims angry, but this should open a dialogue concerning what is true history and nature of their faith, not incite ignorant violence.

Unfortunately we’re dealing with a religion which refuses rational discourse because no one can question the “prophet.” A Muslim cannot leave Islam under penalty of death. Other religions are subjugated, must pay an extortion tax, and are considered “dhimmmis” - a derogatory term with less rights than Muslims under Sharia law. Jews are considered pigs and Christians dogs. All infidels under the Koran subject to death if they don’t submit. They cannot evangelize (a commandment for Christians) and no new churches can be built.

Until Islam has a reformation and these nations develop a verifiable Bill of Rights where all religions can operate equally, the West needs to understand we are in a long term war with a religion bent on world domination. This will never happen because Islam is a house of cards built on a lie. This is why Mohammed used violence and it continues to be the vehicle for spreading its wicked ideology.

I strongly suggest everyone watch this YouTube video, “Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret,” by Dr Bill Warner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y


60 posted on 09/16/2012 5:57:06 PM PDT by datakcy (Hope & Change is ONLY found in the Savior & NOT through empty political slogans!)
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