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Chris Stevens, US ambassador to Libya, killed in Benghazi attack (Three other US staff killed)
The Guardian UK ^ | 9/12/2012

Posted on 09/12/2012 8:26:55 AM PDT by GVnana

Photo Ben Curtis/AP

The US ambassador in Libya and three other embassy staff were killed in a rocket attack after the diplomat's car was targeted in the eastern city of Benghazi, it was confirmed on Wednesday.

A statement from President Obama "condemned the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including ambassador Chris Stevens".

The president added: "Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States."

Earlier, Libya's interior ministry confirmed that Stevens died in the attack. "The American ambassador and three staff members were killed when gunmen fired rockets at them," a Libyan official told Reuters.

An unconfirmed photograph posted on Facebook appears to show a mob dragging a lifeless Stevens along the ground, his shirt off. Some reports say he suffocated to death. Libya's deputy prime minister, Mustafa Abushagur, said security forces had launched a manhunt to find the killers. "I condemn the cowardly act of attacking the US consulate and the killing of Mr Stevens," he said.

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Well, well, well. It seems the first reports of this incident from our "government" weren't exactly accurate.
1 posted on 09/12/2012 8:27:00 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

So how do “not the mainstream of peaceful muslims, but a few radicals” get rocket propelled grenades and intelligence that the ambassador was going to be in Bengazi instead of Tripoli?


2 posted on 09/12/2012 8:30:39 AM PDT by maica
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To: GVnana

My instincts tell me that this administration wouldn’t mind if the next Republican POTUS were to inherit a situation requiring us to go to war in the Middle East...again.


3 posted on 09/12/2012 8:31:09 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: GVnana

This is simply the result of disastrous foreign policy on the part of Dear Leader, Barack Hussein Obama.


4 posted on 09/12/2012 8:31:33 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: GVnana
Ambassador Stevens is a career diplomat. Usually you get one of them appointed as an ambassador when no one in the ranks of the politicians has enough guts to go to that country.

Obama and his running dog lackeys should be ashamed ~ this should have been one them, not someone with the training and talent of Ambassador Stevens wasted like that.

5 posted on 09/12/2012 8:32:26 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GVnana

The horrible just fate of those gullible who vote for and endorse “Hope and Change”.


6 posted on 09/12/2012 8:33:05 AM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: GVnana

The good that can come out of this - Obama is seen for the lily-livered coward he is, and Hilary will be seen in all her PC-ness too. “We are saddened.” Oh, no, TEARS? That will really put the jihadis in their place.

What if Winston Churchill had said that? “The UK is saddened by Germany’s very mean and unwarranted carpet bombings of London.”

Gad, what fools.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 8:33:14 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: GVnana

Islam sucks.

Mohammed was a pedophile.

Just look at the horrifying conditions in which Islam’s billions of adherents live. Your religion begets your society, and muslim societies suck everywhere, 100% of the time.

The Koran states that Mohammed married Aisha when she was 6 years old, and consummated the relationship when she was 9 YEARS OLD. That’s pedophilia in any society in any era.

Islam sucks. Mohammed was a pedophile.

In the United States, we have a perfect First Amendment right to say what we think. I don’t much care whether Muslims are offended by what I think or say.

We also have a perfect Second Amendment right to help ensure the validity of our First Amendment rights.

:-)


8 posted on 09/12/2012 8:33:31 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: maica

RPGs are common men’s attire in your wilder parts of the MIddle East.


9 posted on 09/12/2012 8:33:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GVnana
A lot of information now coming out:

Libyan security forces moved the Ambassador to another building... then some of the LSF rated his location to the militants.

I read two Marines were also killed.

Supposedly the Ambassador's body is in US possession. No word how it was recovered.

No word how the Egyptian Embassy "Apology Statement" was issued without approval from the White House.

50 Marines are on the way to secure US interests, but by all accounts the consulate is burned to the ground.

10 posted on 09/12/2012 8:35:48 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“In the United States, we have a perfect First Amendment right to say what we think. I don’t much care whether Muslims are offended by what I think or say.”...

There IS a difference between shooting one’s mouth off and simply having been within earshot.


11 posted on 09/12/2012 8:45:19 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: GVnana

RIP.


12 posted on 09/12/2012 9:03:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: GVnana

You know it strikes me as odd they way our Intellectual elites try to give us “a perspective” as they soft sell Moslem Murder.

“There are different types of Moslem’s in the Middle East. We can’t lump them all in group”.

“We have not seen a statement by the Muslim Brotherhood condemning this atrocity”.

“We have to keep things in perspective. There are 85 million people in Lybia and 2,000 showed up at the embassy. Clearly those 2,000 are not representative of those 85 million”.

Really?

Really?

So let’s put this in my perspective.

85 million people were powerless to stop 2,000 animals from killing our people? Seriously, GTF over yourself.

Those 2,000 were given and will continues to receive imprimatur to act anyway they want, as agents and proxies for all Moslems, by deafening silence that says “Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Go Ahead. Praise be to Alaugh”.

I heard this same crap after 911 and you idiots continue excuse Alaugh adherents and actually, make excuses for the murdering slobs as well by this statement.

All of Moslem Mudders with support and in secret they high five each other “Got another one today Mo”.

FU

FU

And FU

If I was President I would absolutely go Biblical on the whole Mohammedan wannabe’s, could be’s and their supporters.

I would wholesale slaughter every man under the age of 40 and call it “four score” and you are now F^&*(d for at least one generation.

See yuh...


13 posted on 09/12/2012 9:57:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: GVnana

“Lucky” I’m not the President....


14 posted on 09/12/2012 9:58:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Just look at the horrifying conditions in which Islam’s billions of adherents live. Your religion begets your society, and muslim societies suck everywhere, 100% of the time.

I'm not sure that's right. Have you been to Turkey or Brunei? Qatar? The UAE? Great places.

A lot of Christian countries meanwhile are pretty lousy places to live. DR Congo? South Sudan? Haiti? Eritrea? Burundi? Mozambique? All are majority Christian.

15 posted on 09/12/2012 10:07:45 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I’ll also add that this comment “Your religion begets your society” makes no sense. What societal features, other than Christianity, do Canada, Belarus, Bolivia and the Congo have in common? My guess is nothing.


16 posted on 09/12/2012 10:09:50 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: GVnana

Killed?! He was murdered and his corpse defiled. Yellow journalism.


17 posted on 09/12/2012 10:11:07 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot (Islam Wants You Dead!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Have you been to Eastern Turkey? Not Ismir, Ankara, or Istanbul, but Diyabakir or points East? Pretty Rustic if you get my drift.


18 posted on 09/12/2012 10:15:10 AM PDT by Cliff Dweller (No such thing as a threat... just targets)
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To: GVnana
@Video: Ambassador Chris Stevens hoped for ‘free, democratic, prosperous Libya.’

See what your "good intentions" got you, Mr. Stevens? What it got you was FRIGGING DEAD, you dumbass!

I find scant pity for the fool or his family.
His death is on his own head.

I've got the Nomex on so bring it, if any care to.

19 posted on 09/12/2012 10:25:23 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Alter Kaker
"Have you been to Turkey or Brunei? Qatar? The UAE? Great places."

Being Jewish, I wouldn't dare go with my yarmulke on and Torah in hand. Would you?

20 posted on 09/12/2012 10:26:30 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Pluswhich, your few exceptions prove the rule.

Let’s look at big places with lots of people and a long history of adherence to the religion:

Pakistan, Indonesia, Egypt. etc.

U.S. France. Germany. etc.

You pick which set you’d prefer to live in.


21 posted on 09/12/2012 10:34:16 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Being Jewish, I wouldn't dare go with my yarmulke on and Torah in hand. Would you?

I think you'd probably be fine, actually. There are over 20,000 Jews in Istanbul. But yeah, I'm not saying these countries are perfect but they're all worlds better than the Christian countries I listed on just about every metric. I wouldn't want to walk down a street in DR Congo regardless of whether I'm wearing a yarmulke or not.

22 posted on 09/12/2012 10:34:21 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Actually, not so much:

On November 15, 2003, two trucks carrying bombs slammed into the Bet Israel and Neve Shalom synagogues in Istanbul, Turkey and exploded. The explosions devastated the synagogues and killed twenty-seven people, most of them Turkish Muslims,[1] and injured more than 300 others. Six Jews were among the dead.[1][2][3] An Islamic militant group, IBDA-C, claimed responsibility for the blasts, but Turkish government officials dismissed these claims, pointing out that this minor group did not have enough resources to carry out such an intricately planned and expensive attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Istanbul_bombings

And before you try the quick and easy reply that I’m not likely to be involved, please be advised that my wife’s Jewish office in Seattle was attacked by a jihadi, with a co-worker killed and several others injured.


23 posted on 09/12/2012 10:41:09 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Pluswhich, your few exceptions prove the rule. Let’s look at big places with lots of people and a long history of adherence to the religion: Pakistan, Indonesia, Egypt. etc. U.S. France. Germany. etc. You pick which set you’d prefer to live in.

Sorry buddy, but no dice. If you want "big places with lots of people" then you should include Mexico which is bigger than Germany and DR Congo which is bigger than France. Would I rather live in Congo or Pakistan? Pakistan if you held a gun to my head, but I really would rather get as far away as possible from either. My point is this -- religion is a lousy predictor of national culture or success.

Some countries are nice places to live and some are crappy places to live and there are a lot of things that influence success, peace and wealth. Religion doesn't seem to be all that important.

24 posted on 09/12/2012 10:41:18 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Oh wow, there are Islamic terrorists in Turkey? There are also Islamic terrorists in Israel and the United States, the last time I checked.

If you were worried, I'm pretty strongly against Islamic terrorists. Not sure what point you're making -- I'd still rather be in Turkey, Israel or the United States than DR Congo.

25 posted on 09/12/2012 10:43:56 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: equaviator

First Amendment says there is no difference.


26 posted on 09/12/2012 11:08:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Alter Kaker
Way back toward the end of the civil war in Democratic Republic of Congo the UN weather guys were preparing to get some useful hard data on weather and climate in that area ~ at that time there were only 3 radio sonde capable stations in the entire country, and only 2 more in adjacent countries, which meant that most of Equatorial Africa had only a thin record regarding rainfall, temperature, winds, etc.

The standard stations used in the rest of the world wouldn't work there ~ the termites would eat out the bottoms while the fungus ate the tops and corrosion would eat up all the metal in just months.

It's bad there!

What the UN weather guys worked up looked useable by even illiterate people over a long period of time, although they planned on using folks who could read and write to do the marks on the score sheets.

Then the civil war took a dive ~ supplies were low and the troops were starving. One of the existing radio sonde stations was attacked and the attendants were eaten!

After that the UN people couldn't get any of the locals to touch weather station equipment of any kind.

Eventually James Hansen at NASA just gave up and deleted Africa AND South America from the climatological data bases used for those infamous UN runaway greenhouse models!

27 posted on 09/12/2012 11:23:25 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GVnana
Carter is Obama. Obama is Carter.

Both are Traitor Losers who hate America!

Jimmy Carter's presidency was doomed by the Iranian hostage crisis after the US embassy in Tehran was stormed by Islamist extremists following the Iranian revolution.

A year after the 52 Americans were taken hostage, Carter lost the 1980 election. The hostages were released just as President Ronald Reagan, who defeated Carter, was sworn in.

Thanks to RushIsMyTeddyBear and Focaulut's Pendulum and for these graphic art realities!

28 posted on 09/12/2012 11:35:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: bboop

In an older time, CIA SOG hunter-killer teams would be inbound to gather intel. Once collected they would begin their job descriptions. It is the only way to protect your embassy staff. It reminds me of back in the 80’s when Hezbullah terrorists were kidnapping embassy staff for ransom. They of course kidnapped many Americans. They then kidnapped a russian diplomat and sent the standard ransom demand letter. The KGB went into action and found out who the kidnappers were, and kidnapped the leader’s family. They then sent the kidnapper’s brother’s finger in their reply message and indicated a new part would be shipped daily until the diplomat was returned, which he was, within 24 hours. The Russians did not keep their end of the bargain entirely and killed all the male members of the kidnapper’s family.

Also, sending a Marine FAST team is kind of a poor response, unless the Marine expeditionary brigade is off shore and beginning to disembark or a brigade of Rangers are inbound. Although there would be a pile of dead bodies for each Marine, a FAST team is only 50 Marines. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot are the idiots at the Pentagon thinking endangering Marines in this manner?


29 posted on 09/12/2012 11:48:51 AM PDT by krogers58
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To: Alter Kaker

I know you mean well, but. As a blond-headed Christian American woman, I don’t think I’d tempt fate either.


30 posted on 09/12/2012 11:51:31 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Vendome
“Lucky” I’m not the President....

Yes, I too wish I were president, but I would probably only last about 24 hours before I was impeached and sent to the UN for crimes against humanity for the way I would deal with Islam.
31 posted on 09/12/2012 11:52:36 AM PDT by krogers58
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To: muawiyah

However, the right to offend via free speech doesn’t guarantee that the offended won’t try to murder or succeed in murdering the “offender”.


32 posted on 09/12/2012 12:04:36 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: GVnana

Three less Muslim Brotherhood supporting traitors in the State Department.


33 posted on 09/12/2012 12:07:59 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: equaviator
That's true ~ nor does it stop others from taking revenge.

When it comes to Islam, free speech is not only just a theory, it's one that is very unpopular since it's OK to murder people for exercising it.

That's why we probably need to do what Coulter proposed ~ beat them back to the stone age ~..... er, that was General LeMay..... ~ well, whatever, force conversions and dispose of any who stand in the way ~

34 posted on 09/12/2012 12:09:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GVnana
I know you mean well, but. As a blond-headed Christian American woman, I don’t think I’d tempt fate either.

Do what you want -- but I think you'd be just fine in Dubai. Plenty of blonde Christian women of all nationalities. Not sure about the Congo or South Sudan, however...

35 posted on 09/12/2012 12:10:30 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: krogers58

They are probably thinking they are going to be sending out lots and lots and lots of little tiny airplanes and helicopters carrying little teeny tiny missiles that really blow up something fierce and just wiping out everybody stupid enough to show his RPG anywhere in his vicinity.


36 posted on 09/12/2012 12:17:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I like, I like...


37 posted on 09/12/2012 2:31:14 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: GVnana; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; onyx; SunkenCiv; MestaMachine; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; ...
Well, well, well. It seems the first reports of this incident from our "government" weren't exactly accurate.

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And the story continues to this very day.....

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I was doing a search on a Geeky article and this turned up,,,,I have only done a quick scan,,,,

I had not read it before and it is not on the keyword lists that I normally watch....will add it!

I expect some of you I am pinging have read it before ,...but in the flood of sSTUFF here may have had it recess in your recollections....

38 posted on 11/19/2012 10:29:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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And in the first paragaph we hava an ....UNTRUTH?...
39 posted on 11/19/2012 10:34:41 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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Guess I need to include the paragraph:

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The US ambassador in Libya and three other embassy staff were killed in a rocket attack after the diplomat's car was targeted in the eastern city of Benghazi, it was confirmed on Wednesday.

40 posted on 11/19/2012 10:41:32 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Uncle Miltie
BTTT


41 posted on 11/19/2012 10:47:23 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Great reporting. </sarc>


42 posted on 11/19/2012 10:49:43 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank you very much.


43 posted on 11/19/2012 10:50:46 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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And later in the article I find this:

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On Tuesday the US state department confirmed that one of its employees had been killed by the mob that stormed the US mission in Benghazi, incensed by a US film that they deemed blasphemous to the prophet Muhammad. Libyan officials said Stevens and two security staff were in their car when gunmen fired rockets at it, Reuters reported. The official said the US military had sent a military plane to transport the bodies to Tripoli and to fly them back to the US.

44 posted on 11/19/2012 10:51:18 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Marine_Uncle

See #44.


45 posted on 11/19/2012 10:52:49 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: elpadre
This is simply the result of disastrous foreign policy on the part of Dear Leader, Barack Hussein Obama.

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What if it was an intentional FOREIGN POLICY???

46 posted on 11/19/2012 10:58:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Inventive reporting any one. :) Oh well it is the Guardian.


47 posted on 11/19/2012 11:02:10 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: onyx
You are welcome....

Sometimes mucking around in the older articles turns up things of interest and also reminds us ho inaccurate they might be,,,,

In a car....hmmm??

48 posted on 11/19/2012 11:02:57 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Marine_Uncle
OK....they have the line from the State Dept regarding ...mob...and the video ...being the cause...

Did they get the line that Stephens was in a car from them also?

Nov the British ambassador was attacked in his car...in a convoy of vehicles....

49 posted on 11/19/2012 11:09:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm going to be off the boards for some time. I have a new aircraft to check out. A rather well modeled General Dynamics F-111 "Aardvark", circa. 1960.
Rather exotic sets of panel gauges to learn how to use. Five wing positions as well as four levels of flaps. Not an easy aircraft to fly by any means. So. Zooming off into the wild blue yonder for a while.......
50 posted on 11/19/2012 11:11:11 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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