Posted on 09/10/2012 8:45:49 AM PDT by Bratch
The liberals do NOT like the mandate. They want single-payer health care. The liberals love the same stuff Romney does, coverage for pre-existing conditions and coverage for any loser kid living in his parents’ basement until age 40. The liberals do not want to pay for their health care, they want it free from the gubbermint, so they don’t like the mandate.
You made an important point. The GOP needs to win over at least some of the folks who voted for Obama last time. They don’t need to convince the people who opposed him last time. Almost no one who voted against Obama last time will have changed their minds to vote for him this time. So the ones in play are his supporters (and not ours, which is a good thing).
The thing is, many of those who voted for him did so believing that their vote proved something about themselves, that they were as people righteous and deep.
GOP is trying to tell them, yes you are righteous and deep, and thats why you are going to vote Romney/Ryan this time.
Liberal love the mandate because it opens the door to even more expansion of Federal power ( just through the threat of taxation and not marginalizing the 10th Amendment, thanks to Chief Justice Roberts) and will eventually help collapse the system this forcing a move to single payer (this per Howard Dean)
Ok, whatever you say.
I heard Romney say he would keep some of obamaccare.
Really, if you don’t want to beleive what he said....okey dokey.
I don’t call it “loving” the mandate when, as you correctly state, their goal is to use it as a stepping stone to single payer, after which it goes away. They would have been happier to pass a single payer bill right off the bat and skip the mandate step.
Nothing like a good old conservative circular firing squad, is there? Sure helps win elections.
Just watched the interview again.
Romney said: I am not going to repeal all of obamacare, there are parts I like.
Then he went on to say he is going to raise taxes on the top 1% (by eliminating deductions).
You are free to beleive whatever you want to believe, I on the other hand choose to beleive the truth.
That truth - Romney is a flipping liberal.
Clean out your ears.
At the very opening of the discussion Romney says he will “replace Obamacare”; he in fact does not say:
“I am not going to repeal all of obamacare, there are parts I like.”
He does not say there are parts of “Obamacare” “I like”.
He says that parts of “health care reform” he will “put in place” in his own plan - which is a broader subject than and is not synonomous with “Obamcare”.
He is not saying he would keep the way Obamacare dealt with the two issues he mentioned - “pre-existing condtions”, and children seeking to continue coverage on their parents plan. Those are reform areas, areas of things that can be reformed. Just mentioning them does not mean keeping anything about them “as is” from Obamacare. As I have tried to keep telling you, the GOP as well had reform ideas on those issues. Those ideas were not the ideas put into Obamacare. Yet, to listen to you, anyone wanting to reform those two areas wanted “Obamacare”. Ignorance.
Geeesh.
When will you quit hearing “Obamacare” everytime someone says “health care reform”. End of your endless circular ears-closed issues.
Ok, honey.
You beleive whatever you want to believe.
Did you not read the original post? The author is telling Romney that the white-taped path to victory is written in our history, and that he'd better get a grip and follow it, or he'll lose this thing.
He's saying the same thing that hundreds of Freepers are saying, which is: 'dump the nice guy routine, and come out swinging, or you're going down to the clown'.
Don't be so sensitive that you reject absolutely critical advice when it's being given.
Romney's got the kid gloves on. He's gonna lose this thing if he doesn't quit playing footsie, and come out swinging with bare knuckles.
The author is dead on the money. Heck, tons of Freepers are screaming the same thing right now.
As for myself, I’d repeal it all — except for the provision that says the mandate may not be considered a tax.
This is the kind of liberal Establishment RINOism that loses elections.
Remember, during the primaries, Romney supporter Pam Bondi (who as Florida AG led the lawsuit against the unconstitutional Obamacare bill) said that they intended to repeal Obamacare and help establish Romneycare in every state.
Romneycare essentially IS Obamacare.
Yet, given that opportunity, she passed.
Not true. She was very active in support of other candidates than Romney and was critical of Romney during the primary campaign. Like many of us, Sarah is correctly critical of the namby-pamby way the Romneyites are running their campaign. Her criticisms are valid.
Tonight on O'Reilly, she agreed with Laura Ingraham that if the GOP can't win what's essentially a gimme election like this one, with the record Obama has compiled, then the Republican Party ought to just close up shop and be replaced. On that, too, I agree with her.
I watched Palin on Fox tonight. I don’t know what’s going on with her, but in the last two appearances I’ve witnessed it appears to me that she’s in danger of losing control of herself. She looks frazzled, and the longer she talks the more frazzled she gets.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if she has a nervous breakdown in the near future. Seriously. Something is going on with her.
As for the election, the MSM is currently throwing everything but the kitchen sink in for Obama and he’s only tied, and can’t break 47%. He’s toast. And even the polls that show the tie are way overloaded with Democrats.
The Tea Party’s staying power, OWS’s pathetic ending, Chick-fil-A, and the performance of the documentary “2016 Obama’s America” are harbingers of the upcoming election. It’s not even going to be close.
What a ridiculous godlike ego.
I have a “plan”: Get the F out my of life, get the F out of my business and get the F out of my face.
You say I can't buy a 100 watt incandescent light bulb??? FFFFFF YOU!
Yep, that was George W Bush who also gave us the prescription drug program, no child left behind, McCain-Fiengold, and bigger and bigger budgets.
I hope you’re right.
In my general deep-blue neighborhood today, I saw very few BO bumper stickers.
Curiously, near downtown there were a few identical light-green Priuses with BO bumper stickers. They looked like they were part of a fleet but were all traveling separately.
Anyhow, most of those cars I saw had bare bumpers. Even the ones parked at Whole Foods had bare bumpers, believe it or not.
The only political yard signs I’ve seen have been for a local school board candidate. No BO yard signs at all.
>>The only political yard signs I’ve seen have been for a local school board candidate. No BO yard signs at all.<<
I suspect union organizers usually coordinate the distribution of Democrat yard signs, and right now union organizers are not particularly happy with the way things are turning out under the Obama administration.
And the Chicago teachers’ strike isn’t going to help in that regard either, as Obama is probably not going to stick his neck out and support the strikers. This will give the unions one more reason to withhold support for him.
They’ll vote for him, especially the public employees in unions, but work hard for him this time? Maybe not.
I don’t agree at all. I’ve seen a good bit of Sarah lately on TV, and she is making strong points — stronger than RINO Romney, the Etch A Sketch Man, will ever make. She’s as articulate and tough as ever.
He says there are certain parts of healthcare reform he’ll keep — then cites specific provisions that are in the Obamacare bill. Thus, he endorsed parts of Obamacare and said he’d keep them.
The only part I want to keep is the part that says the mandate may not be considered a tax.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.