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The Government Is Selling A Bunch Of Classic WW2 Rifles
businessinsider.com ^ | 31 August, 2012 | Geoffrey Ingersoll

Posted on 09/03/2012 5:13:22 AM PDT by marktwain

Guess what? You can buy WW2 rifles from the government.

The "Civilian Marksmanship Program" is a private non-profit, but the government classifies it as a "government corporation hybrid." A Congressional document, leaked by Wikileaks, details how what was once a wholly, publicly owned and operated military wholesale program became this strange, incredibly rare "hybrid" company.

Here's how it works:

All the weapons, the M1 Carbines and M1 Garands (with that distinctive 'ping!' we've all heard in the movies), are owned by the Army, housed by the Army, guarded by the Army, and logistically transferred by the Army.

This "company," serves as the go between in order to distribute these rifles.

Now before you get your gun controlling underpants in a bunch: there is quite a rigorous screening process in order to obtain one of these bad boys. Also, the CMS only sells a certain amount per year, so they have a quota, and they stick to it, because all sales have to pay for operation fees.

If this isn't strange enough, these operation costs include marksmanship training of the American populace. They also have competitions and other forms of training.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; cmp; marksmanship; rifles
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Those in the gun culture, which used to be the dominant culture in the United States, understand that this program makes sense.
1 posted on 09/03/2012 5:13:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I mistated that the gun culture “used” to be the dominant culture in the United States. It still is, evidenced by the rise of ccw laws.

The politics of the country has been hijacked by the MSM for decades.


2 posted on 09/03/2012 5:15:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“A Congressional document, leaked by Wikileaks details how...”

That’s like blaming the phone company for leaking your phone number in the phone book. The history of DCM/CMP is no secret.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 5:23:51 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: marktwain

Memory may fail me...but doesn’t successful completion of an Appleseed weekend qualify the attendee to purchase one of these weapons? Some sort of card/certificate is provided? You can actually do the weekend with a .22 cal long gun (most Appleseed events even have 10/22 loaners!).


4 posted on 09/03/2012 5:26:28 AM PDT by moovova (Hope-ium...Time to kick the habit.)
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To: marktwain

It’s curious that the article continuously refers to the Civilian Marksmanship Program as the “CMS”.

Also, I’ve bought three rifles from them, and the “rigorous screening program” doesn’t seem to be anything more than a standard background check.


5 posted on 09/03/2012 5:29:58 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ctdonath2

That’s how I got my Garand, which was sadly lost in a boating accident. The CMP is secret only to those who are ignorant of it.


6 posted on 09/03/2012 5:31:57 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Noumenon

Ping.


7 posted on 09/03/2012 5:42:01 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain

The problem is the price that CMP is getting for the rifles has gotten outrageous. Why pay more for a well worn antique rifle that has been returned to the US after service with some third world country than you can stroll down to the gun store and buy a nice rifle brand new. If history is your thing the cheapest they have is a “drill rifle” which has been rendered inoperable at $345 which is suitable for wall hanging and that only. I’d rather have a nice painting or print.


8 posted on 09/03/2012 6:10:19 AM PDT by scottteng (Tax government employees til they quit and find something useful to do)
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To: marktwain
Sounds like a great opportunity to pick-up some good quality yard tools.

GET OFF MY LAWN!

9 posted on 09/03/2012 6:11:52 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: marktwain; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Anyone reading this who hasn't already obtained an M1 Garand from the CMP (or two, or three, or...), I cannot recommend it more highly. It's a genuine piece of history, not to mention that the Garand (for me anyway) points more naturally than almost anything else I own, and when you shoot something with a .30-06, it tends to stay shot.

The AR-15 is the rifle my generation grew up with, and that's a good rifle, too, but there's something about a Garand that just can't be duplicated.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

10 posted on 09/03/2012 6:14:34 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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... it tends to stay shot.

Interesting phrase.

I characterize my '06 weapons by saying "If I'm going to shoot something, I want it to stay shot."

Yours is the first "in the wild" reference I've seen to it.

I wonder how many other people use it. ;-)

11 posted on 09/03/2012 6:33:33 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: marktwain

I go to a shoot every few years and have bought three of them so far. The first one was back when the CMP was called the DCM (Director of Civilian Marksmanship, a part of the Army). They are great guns at a reasonable price.

When Congress tried to kill the DCM years ago, it was spun off as the CMP government/civilian hybrid. This is the kind of Government program I can support.


12 posted on 09/03/2012 6:54:43 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: marktwain

Whatever happened to those S. Korean M1’s they were trying to import that got nixxed by the State Dept. ?


13 posted on 09/03/2012 7:23:26 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Kartographer
GET OFF MY LAWN!

IIRC, the dialog in that scene was a LOT more colorful than that!

14 posted on 09/03/2012 8:01:20 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: Kartographer

Is it my eyesight, or is that GARAND barrel plugged, making it non-operable of course. I think someone should touch up the photo to make it more realistic. I would, but for some reason I am a little “shaky” this morning. :-)
Clint is way too much of a Hero to be seen with a toy gun IMHO


15 posted on 09/03/2012 8:21:27 AM PDT by Chance Hart
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To: Chance Hart
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16 posted on 09/03/2012 8:28:30 AM PDT by Chance Hart
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To: rlmorel

***That’s how I got my Garand, which was sadly lost in a boating accident.***

That’s what happened to my CMP M1 Garand (International Harvester), M1-D and 1903 Springfield made in 1918 with an original barrel! <:-(

All I have left is a wiffle bat! If the weather cools down some I will light up the forge with some of my high sulfur coal and pound out a spear point on the anvil.


17 posted on 09/03/2012 8:29:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: rlmorel
That’s how I got my Garand, which was sadly lost in a boating accident.

And just why was it, pray tell, that you had a gun out in a boat? Most people have fishing tackle in such a situation.

Hackneyed phrases, hackneyed phrases.

18 posted on 09/03/2012 8:58:35 AM PDT by OldPossum
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OldPossum said: "And just why was it, pray tell, that you had a gun out in a boat?"

Militia training exercise. Had the Militia been prepared to meet the British at the water's edge, that whole Lexington and Concord thing might never have happened.

If I'm ever able get anymore guns, I intend to tie them to the boat. You just can't be too careful.

19 posted on 09/03/2012 9:26:26 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: Joe Brower

A couple of years ago I was shooting down at the river when a family showed up with their 90 some year old WW2 patriarch and his M1 garand.

This guy was a willow of his former self and the garand seemed bigger than he was.

At any rate that old guy loved his rifle.
I had a bag full of 4x4” blocks of wood that I would toss in the river and that old geezer would blow them out of the river while laughing “one shot one kill”!! LOL!!


20 posted on 09/03/2012 10:05:22 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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