[onceone]

I guess we get to disagree about whether better training or equipment would have made a difference. If they were using jhp bullets, and the bullets went out the other side, shot placement was bad or the bullets failed to function. Misses are the responsibility of the shooter and could/would cause fragmentation of the round.

16 rounds fired with 10(?) hits from what, 10 feet away, is just not acceptable.

I will say again, I do not fault their actions. I question their training and equipment. It is something that must be addressed by a department that sends their members out on crowded streets where the potential exists that innocent bystanders may be injured.

I know some LEOs can do better. Where I live we had a Deputy who encountered a guy who was randomly discharging a handgun around a neighborhood. When the guy trained the gun on the deputy, the deputy killed him with one shot. It can be done.

[fireman15]

I don't actually disagree with you. There obviously are individuals who could have taken down the gunman with just a couple of well placed shots with no injured bystanders. Proper training no doubt aids in the development of such individuals.

True story... two soldiers one from North Vietnam and one from the United States were walking down the same trail approaching one another. They came to the opposite ends of a log that crossed a small stream. As they began to cross the log each looked up and saw the other. They both drew their weapons and fired. Within seconds their magazines were empty... each ran off screaming in the directions that they had come from. Neither was wounded.

A friend of mine was just down the trail from the experienced soldier who had been walking point. The soldier had proved himself on previous occasions and was known to be an excellent marksman. When the bullets are flying sometimes things don't go the way that you think that they should.

I am sure that the NYPD will be reviewing their policies and that there will be additional training to help their officers do better in similar future scenarios.

[fireman15]

I wanted to assure you that I meant no disrespect in either of my posts and I sincerely hope that we don’t read about more innocent people being injured by police bullets any time soon.