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Who's sorry about the Roberts ruling now?
Washington Examiner ^ | 8/22/12 | Noemie Emery

Posted on 08/22/2012 6:29:53 AM PDT by Evil Slayer

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To: fatnotlazy

He was not selected to be pussy footin around up there.

That is what He did.


21 posted on 08/22/2012 7:04:28 AM PDT by reefdiver (Shoeless John Roberts, American Backstabber)
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To: MrB

I’d hope I would never be in the position, but imagine the forefathers having that attitude of ‘what if something bad happens if I don’t do this thing that needs to be done...’


22 posted on 08/22/2012 7:11:34 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Evil Slayer

Whos Sorry Now
Artist: Connie Francis

Who’s sorry now, who’s sorry now
Whose heart is achin’ for breakin’ each vow
Who’s sad and blue, who’s cryin’ too
Just like I cried over you

Right to the end just like a friend
I tried to warn you somehow
You had your way, now you must pay
I’m glad that you’re sorry now

Right to the end just like a friend
I tried to warn you somehow
You had your way, now you must pay
I’m glad that you’re sorry now


23 posted on 08/22/2012 7:11:37 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: wolfman23601

Traitor John screwed over the entire Federal republic with his abominable act no matter what self-serving and convoluted reasoning he used to explain it.

John is a traitor and deserves nothing but the eternal contempt of every patriot of this once free country. I hope he find whatever Thirty pieces of silver the left had given him useful in hell.


24 posted on 08/22/2012 7:22:36 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Evil Slayer

We often hear excuses made that Roberts was considering the “future” and “reputation” of the court or has some grand political calculus that none of us mortals can fathom.

RUBBISH. Obamacare was clearly unconstitutional - all he had to do was write a simple and clear opinion that tells everyone exactly why. His job is then done.


25 posted on 08/22/2012 7:22:53 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

The bottom line is that Roberts voted WITH Sotomayor, Kagan and Ginsburg.


26 posted on 08/22/2012 7:24:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wolfman23601

“... the law and likely will be forever”

Way too optimistic. We haven’t “forever”...and WITH ObamaCare...we have a LOT less of it....


27 posted on 08/22/2012 7:26:38 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Red Badger

“The unintended consequence is there will come a time in the very near future when a Medicare patient will not be accepted............”

If I look into the crystal ball, I see many foreigners, some who are illegals, giving up their hack licenses and taking the Everlyn Wood Speed Doctor course, with a focus on senior medical care documentation.


28 posted on 08/22/2012 7:35:03 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Evil Slayer

Roberts is a traitor to his oath and the US Constitution he pledged to uphold. Nothing less.


29 posted on 08/22/2012 7:35:47 AM PDT by vortigern
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To: Evil Slayer

The above points are good ones, but to impute thereby that Roberts is “one of us” is a grave error.

Like many things spawned by the Bush Administration, Roberts appointment will prove to be a Constitutionally flawed one and this is not the FIRST decision this guy has failed us on.

Further, in addition to his defective views of the Constiution and Court Review of that document, Roberts has demonstrated he is a moral coward - a man effected by the impact of the leftist media and not by the merits of the issue at hand. He may even be swayed by the values of his corrupt collegues Bader-Ginsberg, Soto-Mayor and Kagen - the three witches of the Macbeth scene being played out now by the High Court.

It bodes evil for the future.


30 posted on 08/22/2012 7:39:21 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: Red Badger
"That is what many, many people (mostly liberals) do not understand. A doctor does not have to accept Medicare patients. Many have already stopped taking on new Medicare patients. The unintended consequence is there will come a time in the very near future when a Medicare patient will not be accepted............"

I doubt the consequences are unintended, but beyond that, there is already a growing percentage of doctors who won't take Medicare patients and a larger percentage who won't take new to their practice Medicare patients.

31 posted on 08/22/2012 7:41:49 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Buckeye McFrog
If we think we’ve seen some bloody knock-down dragouts of confirmation battles, we ain’t seen nothing yet.

GOP Senator at hearing on Dem SCOTUS nominee: "Let's see, you personally performed abortions but say you have no opinion, you flew to Venezuela to be at the side of Hugo Chavez through his cancer scare and you spit on a soldier on your way into this chamber. You burned the constitution in college and recently said you wish you'd burned the declaration of independence too. The flag makes you cry. But you went to law school so you look qualified otherwise so I vote yes."

Dem Senator at hearing on GOP SCOTUS nominee: "You were awarded jurist of the year on five separate occasions. Your legal briefs are the source material for courses on constitutional law all across the nation. You helped an old lady cross the street today and you put a quarter in all the meters outside so nobody gets a ticket. Wait, did you read "Atlas Shrugged" in college? Extremist! In your world women will have to work as prostitutes and men will be sent to slave galleys! I smell sulpher! I vote no! In fact, fillibuster! Where are the cameras again?"

32 posted on 08/22/2012 7:44:55 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Evil Slayer

Who’s sorry about the Roberts Ruling Now?

I am.

Let’s never forget that he betrayed the Constitution, and “re-wrote” a massive bill into something it was not meant to be.

The ends do not justify the means.


33 posted on 08/22/2012 7:49:39 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Did you use your crystal ball in a ‘Hoveround’?..........


34 posted on 08/22/2012 7:57:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Truth29

I’m fairly sure it was unintended by the original writers of the Medicare bill, but liberals never look down the road to consider the consequences of their actions. The ‘here and now’ is all that matters to them. They leave all the messes that civilized rational people have to clean up later.............


35 posted on 08/22/2012 8:02:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: fatnotlazy

Changed his mind?
This decision was nothing short of brilliant for the constitution and a near death blow for liberals and socialists everywhere..

How, you ask?

First, set aside the emotions, shut off the a.m. radio for a moment and put on your thinking cap. Think about how the libs have been pushing through their programs for over 80 years.

When the supreme court issues a ruling, there are 2 opinions written, the majority and the minority. Both opinions carry weight.

The majority opinion carries the majority of the weight, with the minority opinion carrying little weight, but carrying weight nontheless. The minority opinion can and has been used as a kind of “back door” for judicial activism for decades now.

The libs use 3 main “sledgehammers” to pass and keep passing their agenda.

Roberts took all 3 away.

He stated that the commerce clause cannot be used to create commerce in order to regulate it ( the most favorite tactic of the left )..

Now the brilliant part.. the minority opinion CONCURS!!!
back door closed, sledgehammer taken away....

Roberts ruled that the Necessary and General clause cannot be used to create any damn social program that comes along ( his ruling was way more wordy than this, but this is the general idea )..

And the minority opinion CONCURS!!!
back door closed, sledgehammer taken away....

and now I have saved the best for last (and this one is already being used)

Roberts ruled that the feds can no longer issue mandates to the states with financial penalties for non compliance. In other words, unfunded mandates by the feds to the states cannot happen.

and the minority opinion CONCURS!!!
back door closed, sledgehammer taken away.

I have heard of alot of people saying that Roberts is a traitor to the conservative movement. Roberts is not a conservative. He is a Federalist. He is a member of the Federalist society. He believes in the constitution.

This ruling restored more to the constitution than any other ruling in the past 80 years.

It has effectively destroyed the entire battle plan of the socialists in one big bold swoop.

and the minority opinion concurs....

Had Roberts gone with the other side, the minority opinion would more than likely have been written by that old bag ginsberg, and the libs battle plan could go on uninterupped....

My guess is that the libs were so desperate to keep this thing that they were willing to do ANYTHING...

Roberts saw the opportunity and took it.

He hoodwinked the crap out of the socialists..

How do I know this?

Find and listen to that old bag ginsbergs comments after the ruling..

She was angry as hell, her voice dripping with both sarcasm and disgust..

That is enough proof for me that not only is this what happened, but that she knows the jig is up..


36 posted on 08/22/2012 8:15:22 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: joe fonebone

Thank you!

Roberts took a lot of heat for this, but I always thought he was smarter, by far. We are so lucky to have him.


37 posted on 08/22/2012 8:20:00 AM PDT by Latecomer
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To: joe fonebone

And the ruling also sets forth that adhering to the Constitution is not longer required of US Supreme Court Justices.

Which sends your entire argument down the toilet.

The ends, however noble, do not justify the means.


38 posted on 08/22/2012 8:27:04 AM PDT by privatedrive
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To: joe fonebone

Roberts also established that the government can call anything a tax and compel compliance with social diktat using the IRS.


39 posted on 08/22/2012 8:43:04 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: wolfman23601

“Roberts screwed us, plain and simple. Obamacare is still the law and likely will be forever thanks to Justice Roberts.”

It also marks the official date of the United States formally becoming a totalitarian state:

“Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible. ... It is not synonymous with dictatorship, as authoritarian regimes also exhibit dictatorial features, but do not create an all-controlling, all-politicised society.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism

“Of, relating to, being, or imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed”
http://www.answers.com/topic/totalitarian

“Totalitarian democracy is a term made famous by Israeli historian J. L. Talmon to refer to a system of government in which lawfully elected representatives maintain the integrity of a nation state whose citizens, while granted the right to vote, have little or no participation in the decision-making process of the government. ... Talmon’s 1952 book The Origins of Totalitarian Democracy discusses the transformation of a state in which traditional values and articles of faith shape the role of government into one in which social utility takes absolute precedence. ... The philosophy of totalitarian democracy, according to Talmon, is based on a top-down view of society, which sees an absolute and perfect political truth to which all reasonable humans are driven. ... A totalitarian democracy, says Talmon, accepts “exclusive territorial sovereignty” as its right. It retains full power of expropriation and full power of imposition, i.e., the right of control over everything and everyone. Maintenance of such power, in the absence of full support of the citizenry, requires the forceful suppression of any dissenting element except what the government purposely permits or organizes.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarian_democracy

HealthControl, which mandates what you must purchase and provides for the control of what treatments may or may not be rationed out to you, is as intimate a scale of State intrusion as is possible. “Repeal and replace” is not a solution, it merely paints the problem of tyranny a different color.

This is a totalitarian nation, as surely as was the Soviet Union. It may or may not continue to be relatively benign, but the fact remains that we are no longer a free people. We are subjects now; not citizens. Until we take the steps to reverse the incremental federal overreaches and oppressions of more than a century of what the Democrats AND the Republicans have done to us, we shall remain subjects. Both parties cooperated to bring us to this point. Both parties will cooperate to keep us here.


40 posted on 08/22/2012 8:43:08 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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