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Doctor behind Todd Akin's rape theory was a Romney surrogate in 2007
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Posted on 08/21/2012 7:39:05 PM PDT by chessplayer

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To: Nifster
No it is not. The pregnancy rate for those raped in fact is higher than those who merely have consensual sex ( as opposed to those in a marriage who are not practicing birth control). You obviously have not read the studies....and your understanding of conception is also obvious lacking. Sperm does not have to be deposited INTO the vagina to result in pregnancy. A woman does not have to be ovulating to get pregnant----please go back and find out abut conception. If this s what you have taught your children they are grossly misinformed

You're way out of line. Don't worry about what I teach my kids (how "progressive" of you). Numerous studies have shown that pregnancy by rape is extremely rare - the ones that don't are left-wing propaganda that use self reported data, they're designed to bolster the baby killing business. And the three points I made are factual. We should be more worried about you, as you're obviously persuaded by feminist idiocy. Indeed, your entire little harangue comes across as "liberal". Perhaps you're in the wrong place, fool.

You're welcome to respond, but after that please steer clear of me. You're an idiot.
41 posted on 08/22/2012 7:26:31 AM PDT by youngidiot (The name's Bond. James Bond. James Bond Jovi.)
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To: chessplayer

It doesn’t matter how many times they hit us. Romney is going to promote his Mormonism at the convention. Unless Hurricane Issac stops it, Romney is going to sink his own ship. Obama is a shew in.


42 posted on 08/22/2012 8:32:15 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DLfromthedesert
So because he endorsed Romney, that means Romney agreed with everything he said or wrote?

Of course it does....IF...Romney has ever held any political opponent responsible for words or deeds of supporters or sources

Santorum and Gingrich come to mind.

43 posted on 08/22/2012 8:53:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: youngidiot

I have one question only...since you seem to support the ‘no exception’ rule when it comes to abortion, what do you tell a woman with a tubal pregnancy?


44 posted on 08/22/2012 9:12:21 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I have one question only...since you seem to support the ‘no exception’ rule when it comes to abortion, what do you tell a woman with a tubal pregnancy?

Did I say that? No. You have an ax to grind. Enjoy your abortions or whatever it is you want to do. Bye.
45 posted on 08/22/2012 10:06:44 AM PDT by youngidiot (The name's Bond. James Bond. James Bond Jovi.)
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To: youngidiot

Rape related pregnancies are 1% of abortions. That’s rare. That figure comes from the Alan Guttmacher Institute. A wholly owned subsidiary of Planned Parenthood.


46 posted on 08/22/2012 11:13:03 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: chessplayer
http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_love_them_both_29.asp
Why Can't We Love Them Both
by Dr. and Mrs. J.C. Willke


Short excerpt from Ch. 29: Rape. See especially the last paragraph:
"In this case, we have incredible emotional trauma. Her body is upset. Even if she conceives, the miscarriage rate is higher than in a more normal pregnancy. If she loses 20% of 600, there are 450 left. Finally, we must factor in one of the most important reasons why a rape victim rarely gets pregnant, and that is psychic trauma. Every woman is aware that stress and emotional factors can alter her menstrual cycle. To get pregnant and stay pregnant, a woman’s body must produce a very sophisticated mix of hormones. Hormone production is controlled by a part of the brain which is easily influenced by emotions. There’s no greater emotional trauma that can be experienced by a woman than an assault rape. This can radically upset her possibility of ovulation, fertilization, implantation and even nurturing of a pregnancy."

Are assault rape pregnancies common?

No, they are very rare.

Are there accurate numbers?

The Justice Dept., from 1973 to 1987, surveyed 49,000 households annually, asking questions on violence and criminal acts. The results of those reported were:

1973 — completed rapes — 95,934

1987 — completed rapes — 82,505

The study stated that only 53% were reported to police. Accordingly, the total numbers were: 1973 — 181,016 ; 1987 — 155,667
[The Washington Times, Jan. 14, 1991, A-5]

A more recent Justice Dept. report, using a study designed differently with more direct questions, returned a result of 170,000 completed rapes plus 140,000 attempted rapes.
Nat. Crime Victim Report, [US Justice Dept. Aug. 95, R. Bachman]

And how many pregnancies result?

About 1 or 2 for each 1000. Using the 170,000 figure, this translates into an overall total of 170 to 340 assault rape pregnancies a year in the entire United States.

Only one or two out of 1000? Please explain.

There are about 100 million women in the United States old enough to be at risk for assault rape. Let’s use a figure of 200,000 forcible rapes every year. The studies available agree that there are no more than two pregnancies per 1,000 assault rapes.

So much for the numbers. Let’s look at it from another angle and see if that figure makes sense.

- Of these 200,000 women who were raped, one-third were either too old or too young to get pregnant. That leaves 133,000 at risk of pregnancy.

- A woman is capable of being fertilized only three days out of her 30-day month. So divide 133,000 by 10, and 13,300 women remain.

- One-fourth of all women in the United States of child-bearing age have been sterilized. That drops the figure to 10,000.

- Only half of the assailants penetrate her body and/or deposit sperm. Cut it in half again. We are own to 5,000.

- Fifteen percent of men are sterile; that drops the figure to 4,250. Fifteen percent of non-surgically sterilized women are naturally sterile. That reduces the number to 3,600.

- Another 15% are on the pill and/or are already pregnant. Now the figure is 3,070. Now factor in something that all adults know. It takes from five to ten months for an average couple to achieve a pregnancy. Using the smaller figure, to be conservative, divide the 3,000 figure by 5, and the number drops to about 600.

In a healthy, peaceful marriage, the miscarriage rate ranges up to about 15%. In this case, we have incredible emotional trauma. Her body is upset. Even if she conceives, the miscarriage rate is higher than in a more normal pregnancy. If she loses 20% of 600, there are 450 left. Finally, we must factor in one of the most important reasons why a rape victim rarely gets pregnant, and that is psychic trauma. Every woman is aware that stress and emotional factors can alter her menstrual cycle. To get pregnant and stay pregnant, a woman’s body must produce a very sophisticated mix of hormones. Hormone production is controlled by a part of the brain which is easily influenced by emotions. There’s no greater emotional trauma that can be experienced by a woman than an assault rape. This can radically upset her possibility of ovulation, fertilization, implantation and even nurturing of a pregnancy. So what further percentage reduction in pregnancy will this cause? No one really knows, but this factor certainly cuts the last figure by at least 50%, and probably more, leaving a final figure of 225 women pregnant each year, a number that closely matches the 200 found in clinical studies.

47 posted on 08/22/2012 5:18:29 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: Gene Eric
It’s only day 2. But this too will go away not before long.

Ummm.... you mean similar to the way Obama's "You didn't build your business!" gaffe totally disappeared from the political radar in a few days?

48 posted on 08/22/2012 6:49:14 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (If my kids make a mistake in the voting booth, I don't want them punished with a community organizer)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Akin’s remarks were not malicious — bizarre, but certainly not Marxist.


49 posted on 08/22/2012 8:52:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: chessplayer

So it was a set up by Willard to get rid of Conservative opposition in the Senate


50 posted on 08/25/2012 7:45:59 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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