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(Video).Todd Akin on Rape & Abortion,The Jaco Report, 8/19/2012(Liberals out to destroy him .)
Jaco Report ^ | August 19, 2012

Posted on 08/19/2012 12:12:08 PM PDT by SMGFan

Those who want McCaskill reelected are jumping on this.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: akin; alteredsource; mo2012

1 posted on 08/19/2012 12:12:19 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

Todd Akin is trending on twitter now as a result


2 posted on 08/19/2012 12:13:30 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: SMGFan

“The female body has a way to shut down rape.”

Who elected this idiot?


3 posted on 08/19/2012 12:31:20 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: SMGFan

If the liberals want to destroy you, you shouldn’t make their job easier, as he just did.


4 posted on 08/19/2012 12:34:33 PM PDT by TroutFishingInAmerica ("I remember, with particular amusement, men in three-cornered hats, fishing in the dawn")
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To: SMGFan

This is why Claire was running ads supporting Akin.


5 posted on 08/19/2012 12:48:15 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: nhwingut

Not I. Some of us thought her last ad was almost a ringing endorsement for him & we thought Claire’s team figured he would be an easier target. Now we know..........


6 posted on 08/19/2012 12:51:58 PM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: nhwingut

Not I. Some of us thought her last ad was almost a ringing endorsement for him & we thought Claire’s team figured he would be an easier target. Now we know..........


7 posted on 08/19/2012 12:51:58 PM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: SMGFan

Good grief, is that quote for real?

If so, MO sure should have heeded Palin’s endorsement and gone with that Sarah Steelman gal instead!


8 posted on 08/19/2012 12:52:07 PM PDT by greene66
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To: chae

Looks like Akin is trying to lose a slam-dunk election. Ugh.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 12:52:27 PM PDT by bjcoop
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To: bjcoop
Didn't Mizz vet their candidates
10 posted on 08/19/2012 1:01:14 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: SMGFan
(Liberals out to destroy him .)

It looks like he is doing a good job of destroying himself, without any help from liberals. This looks like it may be another "sure win" senate race turning into a certain loss.

11 posted on 08/19/2012 1:01:37 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: SMGFan

But Noooooo!!!! They didn’t heed Sarah’s pick, Sarah Steelman who was much better than this guy and that Brunner fellow.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 1:03:38 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: SMGFan

I sure as hell hope this isn’t a “Maccaca moment” for Akin!!


13 posted on 08/19/2012 1:18:35 PM PDT by donozark (I never trusted anyone above the rank of Corporal, including myself.)
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To: SMGFan

Obamugabe's choice for Missouri: what do you say, Show Me State?
14 posted on 08/19/2012 1:22:16 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: donozark

He cannot apologize and make all of her worst votes the real issue?


15 posted on 08/19/2012 1:29:00 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: nhwingut
“The female body has a way to shut down rape.”

That's not exactly what he said. He said, "The female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." I think he was talking about pregnancy resulting from the rape.

Not defending the guy. That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard someone say. Just want to be accurate.

16 posted on 08/19/2012 1:34:12 PM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: SMGFan; All
Real reason Akin is being attacked:
97.24 lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union!

Come on, people...wake up and smell what the liberals are cooking....this is all going to be done to every Republican on the ballot...words twisted to sound worse than the actual quote, out of context, etc...all to keep the liberals in power and to keep the Senate from turning to a point where we can overturn Obamacare.

Quit falling for the media spin, dammit!!

17 posted on 08/19/2012 1:35:57 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SMGFan

Apology didn’t work for George Allen...This was a wrap for Akin. Until now. No idea how this will work out. Ma was sitting on about $5 million in cash around Primary time (Aug. 7). That was before her Hollywood/union/liberal buds start sending her $$. Ma will play this for all it’s worth.


18 posted on 08/19/2012 1:37:50 PM PDT by donozark (I never trusted anyone above the rank of Corporal, including myself.)
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To: jellybean

He also said he was speaking of this through what doctors had told him.

Anyone here know the likelihood of getting pregnant through rape? Anyone?

By the way, how important is this issue to the future of America right now? Is it more important the McCaskill’s support of Obamugabe’s Death Panels?

If we let the scumbag media (like Charles Jaco) decide the agenda, we’ll lose everytime.

Eye on the prize. Republican Senate, Republican White House, Republican House of Representatives. Let the left spin away...keep shoving the truth in their face. Don’t let ‘em distract. Because that is what all the rest of this crap is...


19 posted on 08/19/2012 1:39:25 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Anyone here know the likelihood of getting pregnant through rape? Anyone?

I do, but you aren't going to like it. Statistically the chances of getting pregnant as the result of being raped are identical to any other single act of intercourse.

20 posted on 08/19/2012 2:29:09 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

Let this be a lesson to conservatives. Listen to Sarah Palin and follow her endorsements.


21 posted on 08/19/2012 2:35:40 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Melas

ok. source it.


22 posted on 08/19/2012 2:37:12 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Melas; RightFighter; JediJones

From the group ‘Physicians for Life’

Assault Rape Pregnancies Are Rare

First, let’s define the term “rape”. We should use the phrase “forced rape” or “assault rape” for that specifies what we’re talking about. Rape can also be statutory. Depending upon your state law, statutory rape is intercourse with a girl under a certain age, often 16. Statutory rape can be consensual, but it is still statutory rape.

Another category is “date rape”. For some reason, this is supposed to be different, but, forced rape is still rape, regardless of whether it occurs on a date or behind the bushes. If a college woman is raped on a date, she should report it to the police and pursue charges. Further, she should undergo a medical examination and treatment, just as she would in the aftermath of an assault rape. It is not a separate category.

Assault rape pregnancies are extremely rare...How many forced rapes result in a pregnancy?...There have been some studies. In a statistical abstract of the U.S. in 1989, there were 90,000 rapes reported in the United States. [Bureau of Census Table #283]

Another study from the US Justice Department, surveyed 49,000 households annually between the years 1973-1987. In 1973, it reported 95,934 completed rapes. In 1987, the figure was 82,505. The study stated that only 53% were reported to police. Factoring this in, the totals were 181,000 rapes in 1973 and 155,000 in 1987. In August 1995, the US Justice Department, using a different study with different questions, returned a result of 170,000 completed rapes plus 140,000 attempted rapes (210,000).

There are approximately 100,000,000 females old enough to be at risk for rape in the U.S. If we calculate on the basis of 100,000 rapes, that means that one woman in 1,000 is raped each year. If we calculate on the basis of 200,000 rapes, that means that one woman in 500 is raped each year.

So, how many rape pregnancies are there? The answer is that, according to statistical reporting, there are no more than one or two pregnancies resultant from every 1000 forced rapes.

Does that make sense? Using the figure of 200,000 women who were forcibly raped, one-third were either too old or too young to get pregnant. That leaves 133,000 at risk for pregnancy.

A woman is capable of being fertilized only 3-6 days of a 30-day month. Multiply our figure of 133,000 by by 0.3. Three days of 30 reduces to 1 of 10. Divide 133,000 by 10, and we have 13,300 women remaining. If we use 5 days of 30, then we have 1 of 6. Divide 133,000 by 6 and there are 22,166 women remaining.
One-fourth of all women in the U.S. of childbearing age have been sterilized, so the remaining three-fourths comes to 10,000 (or 15,000).
Only half of assailants penetrate her body and/or deposit sperm in her vagina1, so cut the remaining figures in half. This leaves 5,000 (or 7,500).
Fifteen percent of men are sterile, which drops that figure to 4,250 (or 6,375).
Another 15% of women are on the pill or already pregnant. That reduces the number to 3,070 (or 4,600).
Now factor in the fact that it takes 5-10 months for the average couple to achieve a pregnancy. Use the smaller figure of 5 months to be conservative and divide the above figures by 5. The number now drops to 600 (or 920).
In an average population, the miscarriage rate is about 15%. In this case, we have incredible emotional trauma. Her body is upset. Even if she conceives, the miscarriage rate will be higher than in a more normal pregnancy. If 20% of raped women miscarry, the figure drops to 450 (or 740).
Finally, factor in what is certainly one of the most important reasons why a rape victim rarely gets pregnant, and that’s psychic trauma. Every woman is aware that stress and emotional factors can alter her menstrual cycle. To get and stay pregnant a woman’s body must produce a very sophisticated mix of hormones. Hormone production is controlled by a part of the brain that is easily influenced by emotions. There’s no greater emotional trauma that can be experienced by a woman than an assault rape. This can radically upset her possibility of ovulation, fertilization, and implantation.
What further percentage reduction in pregnancy will this cause? No one knows. but this factor may well cut this last figure by at least 50%, which would make the final figure 225 (or 370) women pregnant each year from forced rape. These numbers closely match the 200 that have been documented in clinical studies.

So, assault rape pregnancy is extremely rare. If we use the figure of 200, it is 4 per state per year. Even if we use a figure of 500, we’re talking about 10 rape pregnancies per state, per year.

In the U.S. in one year, there are more than 6 million pregnancies. Roughly 3 million eventuate in live birth, 1.5 million are aborted and 500,000 miscarry. While each assault rape pregnancy is a tragedy for the mother (not for the baby, though), such pregnancies amount to a small fraction of the total annual U.S. pregnancies. Further, less than half of assault rape pregnancies are aborted, even though that course of action tends to be vigorously pushed by those around the woman.2, 3

1 New England Journal of Medicine, A.N. Groth, Sexual Dysfunction During Rape, 6Oct1977, p.764-766.

2.Mahkorn & Dolan, “Sexual Assault & Pregnancy”, New Perspectives on Human Abortion, University Publisher of America, 1981, pp. 182-199.

3 Mahkorn, “Pregnancy & Sexual Assault,” Psychological Aspects of Abortion, University Publishers of America, 1979, pp., 53-72.

[J.C. Willke, M.D., Life Issues Connector, 4/1999]

h/t: RightFighter

A little Googling finds “the adult pregnancy rate associated with rape is estimated to be 4.7%.” Another study by an M.D. suggests that the physical trauma associated with rape would make conception less likely.

In terms of what “legitimate rape” means, only Todd Can explain that. I’m sure he would agree it was not the best choice of words since it is confusing. He could be comparing to statutory rape (which is not necessarily a physically violent act) or to a false accusation of rape. What he most likely meant to say was “violent rape” because that is the kind that would result in direct emotional and physical trauma that some doctors seem to say impedes the hormonal balance that helps cause a pregnancy.

I don’t believe in attacking Todd for one gaffe when he qualified his statement, did not say it was an absolute fact 100% of the time, and his ultimate point was a truthful, spiritual one. The child resulting from a rape is innocent and should not be punished with the termination of his or her life.

h/t: JediJones


23 posted on 08/19/2012 3:00:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SMGFan

Claim to have served in Nam and didn’t, bam!!! You are a democrat Senator for CT.

Claim to be a Cherokee Indian and base an entire career on it when you are a out as much Cherokee as a Jeep. Bam!! Your arse is too going to the Senate for Mass.

Make a dumb and unfortunate misstep about rape and you may as well be a rapist. Election over!!!


24 posted on 08/19/2012 3:01:29 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thank You.
I trust you submitted this as well to the successful thread.
Clearly I used a boring title to this thread. The topic took off 45 minutes later in another thread.


25 posted on 08/19/2012 3:03:18 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Private source, and I don’t have her permission to name her. She is however an OB. I think most on here know by now that my wife delivers babies for a living, and this came from a physician she works under. However, having seen your post citing 1970’s science, I fully expect you to discount it as it was not the answer you wanted to hear.


26 posted on 08/19/2012 6:03:36 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: WVNan

Thanks but no thanks. I’m not a big Palin fan, and never was.


27 posted on 08/19/2012 6:05:00 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas

No citation, then. “Someone told me”.

Cool, well that is proof enough for me. Oh, wait...never mind.

You can’t cut it. But go ahead and please the Democrats by piling on...it’ll work wonders for the Obamamugabe Cult’s morale to see you and other so-called conservatives throw up your hands in despair over a 38 second sound bite.

Lotsa guts ya got there, chum.


28 posted on 08/20/2012 1:24:05 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
No citation, then. “Someone told me”. Cool, well that is proof enough for me. Oh, wait...never mind.

Yeah, I know. If it didn't happen on the internet it didn't happen. Btw, I'd give up on the cheer leading at this point. Akins canceled his scheduled appearance on Charlie Brennan's show this morning where he was supposed to clarify his comments. Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, Scott Brown, Denny Rehberg, Jeff Flake, and others have already rebuked him. The conversation in war rooms is now how to get rid of the guy. He's done, stick a fork in him.

29 posted on 08/20/2012 9:52:55 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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