Posted on 08/19/2012 10:48:41 AM PDT by Jyotishi
An 11-year-old Christian girl has been arrested after being accused of desecrating pages of a book containing Islamic text.
She was detained for blasphemy after an angry mob demanded her arrest and threatened to burn down Christian homes outside of the capital, Islamabad, Pakistani media say.
The girl is known to have learning difficulties, officials say.
Police have taken her parents into protective custody following threats.
According to Dawn newspaper, police said the girl had been unable to answer questions properly during the interrogation.
Dr Paul Bhatti, Pakistan's minister for National Harmony, told the BBC that the girl was known to have a mental disorder and that it seemed "unlikely she purposefully desecrated the Koran".
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
Islam is for the Ignorant and the Evil - no one else can tolerate its stench.
It is long past time to Nuke Mecca and Medina.
They are very unsympathetic toward the handicapped and will murder them if they get a chance.
Although there are some civilized modern Pakistanis, the greater part of their country is made up of primitive savages who put superstition first before reason or law.
How can you desecrate a “holy” book?
The Religion of Peace hacking a young christian girl sure proves something to me. It is not the Religion of Peace!
How can they believe in reincarnation when that’s a Hindu belief rather than Muslim?
Yup, sho'nuf, that was enough to maintain Pak interest in reincarnation and transmigration of souls.
That does not follow. Only a fraction of Muslims in Pakistan are Sufi (the ones that actively believe in reincarnation and that believe that Sura 2:28 supports the notion); 70 percent are Sunni and 20 percent are Shi’ite.
The dislike of the handicapped is universal.
A Muslim is a Muslim to me.
let God sort them out.
So there’s no documented evidence of this assertion.
You must not know very many Paks ~ and it’s common gossip among Saudis and Yemenis.
rayers going up for this little girl.
I shouldn’t have to rely on anecdotal evidence.
I live around thousands of these guys ~ have for the last 35 years ~ and you?
This is a ‘civil culture’? Sounds more to me like a theocratic mobocracy based on a 7th century model. Gee, such a great visual, a mob after a mentally challenged 11 year old girl. How many mullahs does it take to whip up such a mob? Very few and far too many!
Muslims are so tolerant!
> Way back when in the hadiths various followers of
> Mohammed describe taking trips to Heaven (which seems to
> be quite near at hand under the right circumstances) to
> meet Jesus and the prophets.
>
> Yup, sho’nuf, that was enough to maintain Pak interest in
> reincarnation and transmigration of souls.
Reincarnation in Christianity and Judaism
The Old Testament actually ends with a prophecy announcing the reincarnation of Elijah. (Malachi 4:5)
According to the Gospels, Jesus himself stated that John the Baptist was Elijah. (Matthew 11:10-11, 13-14)
However, the Baptist denied being Elijah. (John: 1-21)
There are descriptions in New Testament of the conjectures of various people, including Herod, as to whose soul Jesus might represent reincarnation of. (Matthew14:1-2, 16:13-14; Mark 6:14-16; Luke 9:7-9)
In John 9’s account of Jesus’s healing of a man born blind, the disciples ask Jesus if the man was BORN BLIND DUE TO HIS OWN SINS or those of his parents. Clearly, if a man is born blind due to his own sins, those must have been committed in a previous life.
And so on...
“Christianity” as we know it was initiated by Paul, who did not know Jesus during his life and seemed to have no interest in his teachings; in his vision, Jesus’s role was simply to have died. (Please note that Jesus was not a shy man and if he intended to “save” humanity by dying, he did not mention this spiritual plan.)
The new religion was formalized five centuries later by the Ecumenical Council of Constantinople in AD 533. In spirit as well as deeds-—accumulating property, assembling for worship with great public fanfare, sending armies for conquest, maintaining torture chambers-—it came to represent Roman Empire far more than Jesus. Indeed, soon enough it shifted its headquarters to Rome rather than Jerusalem, Bethlehem, or some such place. The word “father”, which always meant God to Jesus, now came to mean the Pope. However I digress...
It was this Council which formally declared reincarnation to be a heretical concept and it remains banned even today. However, they were unable to entirely erase a centuries- and milenia-old tradition so deeply rooted, so a few traces remain in the Gospels.
- Anil Trivedi
Also:
Judaism is said to have a belief in three types of reincarnation: 1. the soul reincarnates after dead; 2. the essence of the parent in “reincarnated” in the offspring via sperm/ova.
The following books give a good exposition on the topic:
UW Libraries Catalog
Author: Head, Joseph.
Title: Reincarnation in world thought;
Pub. Info.: New York, Causeway Books; published by arrangement with The Julian Press, New York, c1967.
Author: Christie-Murray, David.
Title: Reincarnation : ancient beliefs and modern evidence
Pub. Info.: Newton Abbot : David and Charles, c1981.
Title: Reincarnation, a new horizon in science, religion and society / [compiled by] Sylvia Cranston and Carey Williams.
Pub. Info.: New York, N.Y. : Julian Press, 1984.
- Anshuman Pandey
Closely aligned with the Department of Silly Walks.
FMCDH(BITS)
> Muslims are so tolerant!
> (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
Obama enables those (that is, Muslims) who want to spread their Islamic Sharia law throughout the US. Sharia especially terrorizes women and children. Obama must be voted out.
Actually, they never did get around to formalizing all of them pro or con, and banning didn't work ~ although in some places folks imagine banning did work.
When Arab and Persian Islamic armies invaded India ~ they opened the doors for all sorts of modifications of Islamic belief. People in Pakistan still know what castes their families were, and even what their family names might be ~ in local languages.
Islam is a thin patina in many places, and probably thinner than Islamic authorities would like you to believe.
I said I shouldn’t have to rely on anecdotal evidence. I should see a significant number of web documents stating that a significant number of Pakistani Sunnis (at least) believe in reincarnation.
Please, this is reincarnation? Nice try. Jesus was referring to Malachi and the prophet that was to be a forerunner to Christ "in the spirit and power of Elijah" Luke 1:17.
Clearly, if a man is born blind due to his own sins, those must have been committed in a previous life.
Clearly you are reaching for a reincarnation proof. No, he still has the original sin from Adam, but as Jesus says: 3 Jesus answered, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but that the works of God should be revealed in him. 4 I[a] must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day; the night is coming when no one can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
> ...Jesus was referring to...
Anecdotal evidence is okay as proof then? Good.
Whatever the hell they believe; this 'evil'; freaking; absolute ignorance of these believers; is a planetary scourge. We worry about every deadly virus in the 'chute'; and yet; ignore this.
Why don't you 'google'? On your own, yet. . .
Islam is a war plan.
I did and I’m still looking.
Better than non-contexual proof.
(’Technically; they do not’; but who knows what lurks in the ‘minds of men’.) That said; reincarnation - or not - does not alter the horrific circumstance of this child; or help her family to deal with it; nor does it help any and all; who are so threatened by this darkest of vile ignorance; that passes itself off as a wisdom.
Police have taken her parents into protective custody following threats.
According to Pamela Geller; they are 'missing'. As for 'protective custody'; that simply leaves a 'cold chill' - or should.
B-b-b-b-b-but the war would have ended so soon, and without regard for hearing out the other side!
What, are you a WWII-er?
How 20th century of you!
Arrest of Pak girl on blasphemy charges deeply disturbing: US
PTI
The Pioneer
Tuesday, August 21, 2012
Washington: The US today called the arrest of a young Pakistani girl on blasphemy charges “deeply disturbing” and praised President Asif Ali Zardari for coming out against it.
“This case is obviously deeply disturbing, the arrest of a young Pakistani girl on blasphemy charges,” State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland told reporters at her daily news conference.
“President Zardari, to his credit, went out very quickly. So conceivably, we’ve been welcoming of that move in Islamabad, as well,” Nuland said appreciative of the move of the Pak president.
“Zardari has now asked the Interior Ministry to look into the arrest and has underscored that vulnerable populations have to be protected from misuse of the blasphemy law,” she said.
“We would call on the Pakistanis to have that investigation in a transparent way. And we think that the president’s statement is very welcome, and we urge the government of Pakistan to protect not just its religious minority citizens but also women and girls,” Nuland said.
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