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To: Linda Frances
If Ryan was at the top of the ticket, we would be kicking Obama’s behind. If we want to win, flip the ticket.

I hear that remark bandied about all the time. If only we had so-and-so as a candidate, why we'd really be crushing Obama right now.

Insert any candidate you want at the top of the GOP ticket and I daresay that none of them would be doing any better in the polls than Romney is doing right now. In fact, the more right-wing the candidate is, the worse we would be doing. It pains me to say that because I am a a hardline conservative.

But it's true. If Newt Gingrich or Sarah Palin was on top of the ticket, we'd probably be ten points behind right now instead of dead even or a point or two either way. That's not to say that Palin or Gingrich wouldn't win in November, but they certainly wouldn't be flying high right now. That's because Obama would still be mired in the 44-46% range. The only difference is that Palin or Gingrich would be sitting in the mid-30s and the undecideds would be 20% plus.

Gingrich and Palin would still need to win the votes of the undecideds, just as Reagan had to do in 1980. For those who remember 1980, it wasn't until the final weeks of the election cycle that Reagan started to surge. This was because the American people who consider themselves independents got a good look at Reagan in his convention speech and his debate with Carter and decided that even though they might not agree with all of Reagan's policies, that he was the man for the job.

With Romney, much of this squishy middle has already decided that Romney would be an acceptable alternative to Obama which is why he is running close to dead-even or likely even a few points ahead at this juncture. That's why we only have about 10% undecided at this time because many independents have already settled on Romney as a viable alternative to Obama.

Conservatives usually win elections but they have to work harder at it. Still, Romney is going to have to give the speech of his life at the upcoming convention and perform well in the debates. I think by Labor Day, Romney/Ryan will be close to a ten point lead.

14 posted on 08/16/2012 6:26:01 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
I disagree. You cant win an election without your base. Romney's socialist lite history shows me that he is not the right man for the job. As a Conservative who happens to be registered as Republican, I am one of the base who is sick and tired of second fiddle.

In fact, I question if 4 years of an opposed Obama would be worse than 8 years of an unopposed Romney. Looks about the same to me and since neither is acceptable to me, and since the GOP has shown that they do NOT want to be a party of conservatives, I and along with a few million others will be voting for someone else at the top of the ticket.

Regan rallied the base and had a motivated donation and an army of volunteers. Romney ... not so much. The motivation is anti-Obama not pro-Romney. Regan showed us that when we have a conservative at the TOP of the ticket, we win.

19 posted on 08/16/2012 6:44:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: SamAdams76
I totally disagree with you. I could give you names of dozens of people, mainly people I go to church with, bible studies and family....who will not vote for Romney at all. If I know that many people, think of all the others out there who won't vote for him. The internet gives people the ability to look for themselves what a candidate really did and if what he is saying is true. People know romney's a liberal and will act like one, just like he did before.The sad part is the gop knows this also, that is why he picked Ryan. Romney choosing Ryan was no sacrifice like many make it out to be. Romney knows he's in trouble and is "using" Ryan for his conservative face and character because he has none of his own. Ryan will be "used" to try and help romney win, then placed on a shelf, only to be taken down for funerals. The GOP thought true conservatives would forgive them and come home like many did when Sarah was picked. This time will be worse & don't blame the people who did NOT cheat or force a liberal on us. Blame those who did.

I will not vote for Romney if he is the top of the ticket, but at least I am voting the rest of the ballot. A lot of these people are so disgusted with the gops hard left move and the cheating going on in the primary, they have become disillusioned and say they are not voting at all and that both parties are corrupt. The gop has finally pushed people too far.

The thought of romney having 8 years re-enforces my choice not to vote for him. I'm changing to independent because the gop has become so corrupt. Sometimes I wish I had not gotten so involved in the details of the campaigns, then I would be clueless like everyone else. This election is just like McCain/Palin, only this time many conservatives have had enough of the gop. You think they would have learned. Cheaters never win and we will all suffer for it. It's common knowledge that it was Romney who had his people destroy Sarah in 2008. If Romney had not done that, I think McCain would be in office, but Romney knew he could not run in 2012 if McCain/Sarah won. It was all about him.

I worked the Santorum campaign & I believe he would have won if it wasn't for the cheating, fixing states...and Romney's money, but only God knows for sure. That is one of the reasons the gop pushed him. Romney had to cheat in several states to get where he is. That is just like Obama. I won't have any part in electing someone who does what he did to win. Besides that, to me he is no different than Obama. Pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage/adoption, believes in global warming.....Evil.

You have no way of knowing what would have happened if someone else won the primary, just like the rest of us.

39 posted on 08/16/2012 8:40:05 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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