Posted on 08/16/2012 12:24:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
I know neither of the current candidates will get my vote.
It does make me sad though to see so many so afraid, they will not fight. Not only not fight, but call others names for taking on the fight.
Knowing that a vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for Obama, I am voting my conscience.
Yeah, me too and my conscience won’t let me vote FOR a known gun-grabbing, abortionist/homosexualist big government statist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded
May I submit a hypothesis?
It is this: Every election since 1980 has been about the Republicans.
Come 1992, GHWB failed -- chiefly because he reneged on "No new taxes, read my lips." The Republican incumbent did a very unRepublican thing...and he got whacked.
In 1994, thanks chiefly to Newt, Republicans promised to do some very Republican (i.e., conservative) things. And they won a re-sounding victory.
In 1996, after the GOP Congress had caved in a face-off, they ran a placeholder against a beatable incumbent. They lost.
Shimmer dissolve to 2006. The Democrats didn't win majorities in Congress, Republicans lost them -- because they weren't passing Republican (conservative) legislation. 2008 was a repeat of 1996.
It boils down to this: If a Republican president and a Republican Congress do Republican (conservative) things, they can be re-elected for perpetuity.
I really believe the communist goals of taking over one or both political parties has been achieved. And it's both.
I used to think that the left supporting gay marriage was just a difference of opinion, now however, they are outright attacking Christians for their views. Romney has not stood up against this. Heck, even Obama came out for traditional marriage in 08.
I see a lot of posts about religion of FR, and I am not a very religious person. But this is very scary stuff.
Conservatives tipped their hand before the primaries going along with the ABO mantra. ABO? of course not! Talk about showing your hand. The R's ran with it and crammed Romney down everyone throat.
I really don't believe for the GOP this is about winning. I truly don't.
Question: What would the GOP have to do to make you vote for another party? I guess McCain calling TP people trolls isn't enough. Or Boehner calling us knuckle draggers. Maybe it's Romney afraid to support Christian beliefs?
This is enough for me. I would like to know others thresh hold
Actually, McCain called us "assholes". His "personal assistant", Lindsay Graham, called us "bigots". And, yes, John Boehner has indeed called us "knuckle-draggers".
To me, the best solution is to displace the so-called establishment. We have the power to do so. All it takes is volunteering to be precinct captain, committeeman, etc....and working your way up. At some point, the TP displaces the establishment...and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it.
We just have to make up our minds to do it. And, near as I can tell, the process is already in motion.
It will take hard work and patience -- the latter apparently something that is in short supply among conservatives.
But that's exactly how the radicals took over the Democrat party. In 1968, they were in Grant Park, rioting. By 1972, they were in the hall, taking charge. By 1976, they were in complete command.
In the meantime, the GOP establishment is essentially useless -- but they aren't anti-American or anti-capitalist.
A third party is -- and will continue to be -- the dumbest political idea imaginable.
Yes, I do remember, and was madder than hell at the Perot voters at the time. In retrospect, I see that:
1. Third party votes did NOT favor the incumbent, as some Obama-phobic hysterics claim.
2. Clinton won with a full 57% of the vote opposing him, and two years later he got his ass kicked by the Republican Revolution, which did a lot of good for this nation.
3. Had HW Bush been re-elected on a majority, the Republican Revolution would probably never have materialized. Had he been re-elected on a plurality, maybe.
4. Clinton was re-elected on a plurality of 51% of the popular vote against him, and was impeached before his term ended. Most Americans voted in opposition to him both times. Had most Americans voted for him one or either time, the GOP wouldn't have kept the upper hand as much as they did.
Risking a plurality Obama win OR risking a plurality Romney win is a better risk than handing Romney a mandate. Pray for a plurality, and vote for a plurality.
Remember: you reap what you sow.
I've read stories about Jews in early 30's Germany who thought and said, "That Hitler fellow can't be all bad, he just says those things to make his base happy. We'll be fine...."
What Obama says is only what he says, and in case you haven't been keeping up with current events, Obama is doing bad everywhere. Millions are turning away, and a lot of them will feel perfectly comfortable voting for a progressive "Republican" like Romney.
What Republicans in Congress DO is the lever, and fighting a skinny fraud like Obama, elected on a pissy plurality, would be meat to a terrier.
What Romney says is only what he says, but Republican in Congress are going to play ball -- and Romney plays hardball -- with Romney, the head of the party possibly elected in a popular landslide. That it was an ABO vote would be totally swept under the rug. You would watch slack-jawed as Romney methodically and oh-so-reasonably and sweetly advanced every single liberal agenda on the Republican watch, claiming a popular mandate, while the MSM cheered them on.
You are risking a mandate for that? Not me. I'm voting for a plurality.
For the love of God, look at the man's RECORD.
See my tagline.
... is the same as knowing that the Tooth Fairy brings you a dollar for every lost tooth.
There's only one way to vote for either of them, and that's to mark one of their names on your ballot. Either way, you're voting for liberal progressivism and more government.
There's also a way to make your vote work to weaken whichever liberal wins, and that's to vote for a plurality, making it count against the percentages of both Obama and Romney. A third party vote is a vote for a plurality. USE your vote!!!
God helps those that help themselves.
Romney is the candidate because conservatives failed to present a viable alternative. People are free to chose who they will vote for, but a second term of Obama, no longer concerned with reelection, would be a terrible thing.
If Romney can be pressured, cajoled, or threatened to replace Ginsburg with a conservative justice, it will be enough to override everything he did in the past. But if fat almost 80 year old Scalia suffers a stroke, and Obama replaces him with his favorite ACLU lawyer, it is basically over.
Nobody I know voted for Romney in the primary (well one Mormon coworker) but nobody is seating this one out either.
Well, I’m not going to vote for the liberal judge appointing abortionist/homosexualist big government statist SOB and that’s that.
It will take hard work and patience — the latter apparently something that is in short supply among conservatives
Yeah, that’s the problem, we Conservatives are not patient enough. LOL
In the meantime, the GOP establishment is essentially useless — but they aren’t anti-American or anti-capitalist.
I really beg to differ. Like I said before, I am not particulary religious, but this is really scary stuff that is being doled out.
Again my question What does the GOP need to do to make you not support them?
I may have missed all the ah and troll allegations.
I certainly heard McCain call us hobbits. Really dude? The irony is rich. In the Lord of the Rings..the Hobbits were the force.
You are absolutely correct. Patience seems to be an issue.
But...things are happening far faster than I thought they would.
Again, you are correct..volunteer to make a difference.
I also disagree with your tagline. (the mainstream media IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
This isn’t ignorance, it’s on purpose.
I certainly heard McCain call us hobbits. Really dude? The irony is rich. In the Lord of the Rings..the Hobbits were the force.
Listen to the sound bite, do you really think he is complimenting you?
By the way, I’m not a dude.
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