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To: Right Wing Assault

Imagine how it will be after a few generations.

No one ever looks at the section of the world that has been using Cannabis and Hashish for a couple of thousand years, while Europe refused to adopt it as an intoxicant, but did use beer and wine, and alcohol.

One culture became vibrant, and healthy, the others became like the universal pothead that we all know.


47 posted on 08/16/2012 8:58:52 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12
No one ever looks at the section of the world that has been using Cannabis and Hashish for a couple of thousand years, while Europe refused to adopt it as an intoxicant, but did use beer and wine, and alcohol.

One culture became vibrant, and healthy, the others became like the universal pothead that we all know.


I have no idea how you are assigning blame for the decline of those, presumably Middle-Eastern, cultures on cannabis. Arab and Persian cultures were extremely advanced for their times until roughly 700 AD when Islam took over. And Islam took over by the sword, not by a bunch of stoners voting for them. At the same time, you seem to be suggesting that alcohol makes people better.

My position is that neither drug is healthy, but what is less healthy is believing that a government has the power to tell its SUBJECTS what they can and cannot grow or ingest, especially when it enforces that control with military-style 3am no-knock raids. Today's WOD is nothing but Prohibition part deux, except this time the cops are on steroids and don't give a sh*t about the people.

I am also of the opinion that much of the desire to see a crackdown on marijuana by the government, even at the expense of personal freedoms, is because many of the older crowd still associate marijuana exclusively with those nasty traitorous hippies in the 1960s, and want to see them punished. Well, pot smoking has already gone mainstream. Many people enjoy it, including many conservatives, and I personally know quite a few upstanding citizens, including ex-military, who like to blaze it up now and then.
76 posted on 08/16/2012 12:34:21 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: ansel12
“Imagine how it will be after a few generations.”

People all over the world have used it for at least 5000 years, people use it as much as they want today and always will use it as long as light, dirt and water exists. This plant grew openly EVERYWHERE until the mid 20th century.

Most of our founding fathers smoked hemp as well as other mind altering plants. It was the NUMBER ONE crop in the world until the cotton gin. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_politicians_who_admit_to_cannabis_use#section_1

Prohibition only controls who makes the money from it, not whether it is used. There is not a SINGLE person out there that doesn't smoke because of prohibition. This is a plant that any 12 year old can grow - and they often do. People are willing to pay more for this plant than its weight in $20 bills! You can NEVER stop something so valuable that “grows on trees”.

In Alaska, except for a few years in the early 1970s, it has ALWAYS been legal to grow and possess for personal use. The state hasn't collapsed or turned “Arab”. In fact, it is one of the wealthiest states per capita.

Prohibition does NOTHING to stop people from smoking it. In fact, I know many people that smoke BECAUSE of this idiotic prohibition. I myself started smoking cigarettes again because of Bloomberg’s second-hand laws. I don't smoke hemp because it is my own personal choice but I only need to dress nice and go out to have dealers throwing their cards at me. If you have money, you don't even need to look for it. It finds you...

Purposely doing things that are unjustly prohibited is instinctual to free people.

79 posted on 08/16/2012 1:24:16 PM PDT by varyouga
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