Silent Running: Russian attack submarine sailed in Gulf of Mexico undetected for weeks...

The Washington Free Beacon ^ | 08/14/2012 | Bill Gertz

[massgopguy]

Red Route 1?

[moonshot925]

We had a SOSUS net that ran from the North Cape of Norway to Bear Island in the Arctic.

As soon as the Soviets left their bases on the Kola Peninsula, we could hear them.

[stuartcr]

dis-information

[tcrlaf]

Payback for the US sub operating in Polyarny a few years ago?

[bgill]

This was Obama giving the Russians more space and flexiblity before the election. Imagine what he’ll give them after the election.

[DoughtyOne]

During the run up of China thanks to our wonderful streaming of cash so it could realize it’s desires, I tried to sound the warning of what it’s threat in the Pacific could eventually wind up being.

Oh that was a hoot to some military folks here.

Why China couldn’t get within a thousand miles of the U. S. without our military knowing...

Now we find that Russia has done that very thing.

One sub off the Eastern seaboard, one in the Gulf, and one on the West Coast, and we could see a number of targets go up with little more than five to ten minutes.

Who’s laughing now?

Course why would anyone need to take us out, since we’re doing such a bang up job of it by ourselves.

[going hot]

Course why would anyone need to take us out, since we’re doing such a bang up job of it by ourselves.

I suppose many think that China and Russia have no desire to "take" the USA, and occupy real estate.

However, what if either power were to take offense to our overseas action(s) and "asked" us to cease and desist.

Roasting a couple of US cities may become a method to achieve that goal, to get USA out of their hair somewhere else.

A limited strike is certainly an active possibility.

[Emperor Palpatine]

I’ll say it again.

Eisenhower, Marshall, and Truman should have listened to Patton in 1945.

[Patton@Bastogne]

Agree completely ....

[Gay State Conservative]

All part of the “flexibility” that Osama Obama plans to show that KGB guy once he's given “four more years”.

[Strategerist]

Unfortunately despite my desperate desire to do so I can’t comment on the main body of the story or the comments.

I will say the assertion towards the end of the article that Venezuela is going to buy 11 submarines including an Akula is absolutele nonsense.

They haven’t bought the three Russian Ladas that they’ve been supposedly “negotiating” for since 2005, and they couldn’t possibly afford 11 submarines or be able to man or maintain them, much less an Akula.

Take everything from Bill Gertz with a grain of salt.

[justa-hairyape]

Correct me if Im wrong but a sub that close could lay waste to much of the country before they could even get Obama off the links.

And we would all be dead before we could even get a good debate going on whether those were sub missile launches or jet contrails.

[Little Ray]

The Gulf of Mexico is a big place - lot of room to hid.
We have violated Soviet waters with subs, so it goes both ways.

[RadiationRomeo]

I agree, disinformation.

We probably were able to track the sub quite easily, but publicly we say we can’t so the Ruskies and others think we don’t have the technology.

[Minutemen]

Yeah,but OUR Navy has diversity now!

[ETL]

Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew

In a [] 1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."

"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."

"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html
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FReeper khelus provided the following links for reading/downloading both books in their entirety (free):

New Lies for Old:
http://archive.org/details/GolitsynAnatoleTheNewLiesForOldOnes

The Perestroika Deception:
http://curezone.com/upload/Members/ChazTheMeatHe/Books/Golitsyn_The_Perestroika_Deception_The_World_s_Slide_Towards_the_Secon.pdf
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CHINA...

"the new leaders pledged to adhere to 'Marx, Lenin, Mao' thought .. for 'a long time to come'"

China: Communist Party goes modern (Asia Times)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/DK16Ad02.html

[justa-hairyape]

Then why would we admit we saw them leaving ?

Would we not also be able to have seen them entering ?