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What with all the insane acts of mass murder lately, and all the equally insane calls by democraps to give the 2nd Amendment the heave-ho (or their fascistic impulse to impose a 10,000% tax on ammo sales), I've finally been spooked back into the ammo market to make certain I have an adequate supply of ammo for all the different calibers of weapons I own.

I knew the day was coming, but OMG, what was I thinking buying so many weapons in different calibers??? The only answer I can come up with is I have a gee-whiz personality and want to own all the gee-whiz toys I can lay my hands on. But, OMG, now I'm paying the price and don't like it one bit!! I've already dropped thousands and haven't even secured a decent supply for half my guns (which I'm figuring at approx. 1,000 practice rounds to start with and 250-500 self-defense rounds, or so -- although I recognize the latter is WAY too optimistic... Who do I think I am anyway, John Wayne???).

I should probably buy 5,000 rounds of practice ammo for each gun and one small box of self-defense ammo. My last humiliating trip to the range with my newbie nephew strongly suggests it. This isn't like riding a bike; you may not forget, but you do get incredibly rusty with lack of practice.

Anyway, good article. I love his perspective. Has me thinking I should get rid of my mouse guns and save myself a bundle in the process. Then maybe I could buy that FN Five-seveN I've got my eye on! :-)

1 posted on 08/10/2012 10:44:24 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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The BG?? Ballistic gelatin? Is that what we call them now?


2 posted on 08/10/2012 10:48:19 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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This makes me very comfortable knowing that I have a .357 next to the bed and in the car. Sure they are revolvers but that’s what I started with and still gravitate to.

Well, I did until that boating accident at least. Tough luck that.


4 posted on 08/10/2012 10:57:26 AM PDT by freedomlover
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The problem with this article and his issue with the 9mm is that most gangbangers are using the cheap walmart ammo. there is a huge difference between 115gn FMJ CCI blazer and Federal Hydrashock 147grn JHPs. in a 9mm.

Flame away


5 posted on 08/10/2012 10:58:52 AM PDT by BobinIL
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I shoot .452 in pistol and larger in rifles.

A 9MM will get you a fair fight, a .45 ACP most likely will end the fight on your first shot.

Big slow calibres are the best.


7 posted on 08/10/2012 11:00:42 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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You may wish to start reloading. Much cheaper and more accurate than factory rounds.

Way cheaper.


8 posted on 08/10/2012 11:02:06 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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Thanks for posting this. I’m going to have to rethink a few things after reading it.


11 posted on 08/10/2012 11:06:10 AM PDT by GBA
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Too bad he doesn't mention any battle rifle cartridges. .308 and .30-06 are the zombie killers of choice.

When it comes to home defense, it's time we started thinking Somalia instead of Suburbia. Pistols for home defense are so twentieth-century. Today's home invader is likely to be insane, accompanied by a small army of likeminded invaders or SWAT-ted out in kevlar. Rapid, deeply penetrating, decisively wounding hits are needed. Nothing delivers them like a semi-auto battle rifle.

17 posted on 08/10/2012 11:15:57 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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In the movie My Blue Heaven, a comedy with Steve Martin and Rick Moranis, Steve was a criminal witness against the mob on the Witness Protection program. He testified in front of a panel, questioning him and they asked him what caliber gun they use expecting him to say the big calibers. Steve said those big guns are so messy and spray brains all over he place but the little 22 goes into the skull and ricochets all over the place inside there and does not come out the other side. So that's the desired hit piece.
18 posted on 08/10/2012 11:19:23 AM PDT by fish hawk (phobos)
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9 x 23

Pros
Capacity of the 9 mm
Stopping power of the .357 mag

Cons
Not much in the way of commercial ammo (mostly reload)
Not much in the way of standard guns (mostly custom builds)


22 posted on 08/10/2012 11:28:41 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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I take these things with a grain of salt. The man who taught me how to really shoot was a Viet Nam vet, and longtime member of the army rifle team. What did he carry as his personal sidearm in the civilian world? A Ruger Mark III.


24 posted on 08/10/2012 11:34:00 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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One thought for shotgun guys. My 12 ga. is loaded with the last two rounds in 3-1/2 inch magnum buckshot, a whole lot more kick than the Federal Reduced Recoil 2-3/4 inch rounds loaded for home defense. In the event that I lose count, and if I end up needing that many shots, (1) I want a reminder that I’m almost empty, and (2) I’m a whole lot more interested in hitting hard and a whole lot less concerned about over-penetration.


27 posted on 08/10/2012 11:35:55 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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Then maybe I could buy that FN Five-seveN I've got my eye on! :-)

The thing I find most intriguing about this round is the big, black, hole you find when you go looking for first hand reports on it's effectiveness.

Lots of hearsay and naysay available from "expert" opinion peddlers, but damn little in the way of After Action Reports, or terminal ballistics out there for a round used by so many LE agencies and foreign military organizations.

It would seem to me the best way to employ this round is to shoot "at" something, as opposed to just trying to score hits on the BG.

49 posted on 08/10/2012 12:21:07 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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“... I can tell you that when the chips are down, there’s nothing that beats a 12-gauge...”

Thank you.
A 12Ga. loaded with double-0 buckshot is my preferred means of investigating noises at night.


51 posted on 08/10/2012 12:25:36 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: LibWhacker; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
While I love my .45 cal Thompson, I really want... a .75 Recoilless like “Slippery Jim” DiGriz--
62 posted on 08/10/2012 1:05:24 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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bfl


78 posted on 08/10/2012 2:43:30 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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