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Obama camp denies knowledge of cancer tale it told in May
Yahoo News ^ | Aug. 8, 2012 | Olive Knox

Posted on 08/09/2012 7:29:44 AM PDT by libstripper

Oops? President Barack Obama's re-election campaign washed its hands Wednesday of an independent group's vicious (and misleading) ad effectively blaming Mitt Romney for the death of a laid-off steelworker's wife from cancer. Campaign officials flatly denied any knowledge of the facts in the case—but it turns out the widower told the same story on an Obama campaign conference call in mid-May. (The Obama campaign responded late in the day: See update below).

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demlies; denial; election; lies; obama; obamaattackads; obamalies; romneyattackads; soptic
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The extraordinary thing about Soptic's remarks is the careful, sleazy lawyer job somebody at the Obama campaign did in preparing them for him to read. Here's what he said on the Obama campaign's conference call:

After we lost our jobs, we found out that we were going to lose our health insurance, and that our pensions hadn't been funded like Bain promised they would be. I was lucky to find another job as a custodian in a local school district. They gave me some health insurance, but I couldn't afford to buy it for my wife. A little while later she was diagnosed with lung cancer. I had to put her in a county hospital because she didn't have health care, and when the cancer took her away, all I got was an enormous bill. That put a lot of stress on me: I thought I'd be paying it off until I died myself. That probably wouldn't have happened if Bain kept its promise and I was allowed to keep our health insurance.

Note how all the events are compressed, much like the editing of Obama's life story in Dreams from my Father, to omit the six years from Soptic's layoff to his wife's cancer diagnosis, her having a job with health insurance for two years, and leaving that job. Soptic didn't do that piece of sleazy word smithing on his own. It had to have been done by an Obama lawyer skilled in creating false narratives by omitting and compressing events and time frames. The similarity of that statement to the one issued by the Obama super pac also show the whole hit was illegally coordinated.

1 posted on 08/09/2012 7:29:52 AM PDT by libstripper
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2 posted on 08/09/2012 7:32:43 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: libstripper

Liars!


3 posted on 08/09/2012 7:34:04 AM PDT by DIXIEBELLE2012
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To: libstripper

The only way progressives (aka Marxist communists) can continue to lie about everything is with the complete corruption of our media.

The media, through their communist filter, are able to affect the minds of those too lazy to verify what they are being told. Unfortunately for those of us who loved our country the way the founders designed it, there are so many lazy people the lies become the truth and we get the filth in our government that the communists want.


4 posted on 08/09/2012 7:38:33 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: libstripper

I wonder if this Administration can even perceive truth.


5 posted on 08/09/2012 7:39:56 AM PDT by bagman
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To: libstripper

The Manchurian and his corrupt admin. got caught in ANOTHER lie. Dear Lord, it’s going to take ages for us to fumigate the WH and environs after these liars leave.

They don’t feel any shame whatsoever and will just move on to the next lie. There should be a thread having us all guess what they will come up with next. My bet, women and contraception.


6 posted on 08/09/2012 7:43:57 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: bagman

Satan, the great Liar. Yes I’m calling Obama Satan and the ones with him are demons.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 7:44:02 AM PDT by In God I trust
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To: bagman

Satan, the great Liar. Yes I’m calling Obama Satan and the ones with him are demons.


8 posted on 08/09/2012 7:44:11 AM PDT by In God I trust
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To: libstripper

It’s fun to play the Obama lying game. Here’s how you play: take two events that occurred chronologically, but not necessarily close together in time, and imply that the first caused the second.

I’ll go first:
The Yankees signed Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig to their roster but didn’t win a pennant for 11 straight seasons.
(Those seasons were 1965-1975, inclusive.)


9 posted on 08/09/2012 7:44:48 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (I didn't write this by myself. Obama helped me. Everyone helped me.)
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To: musicman

Alinski’s rules for radicals. Read it, it is the campaign strategy. A short summary:

Rules for Power Tactics:

1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.
2. Never go outside the experience of your people.
3. Whenever possible, go outside of the experience of the enemy.
4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.
5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.
7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
8. Keep the pressure on with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.
9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.
10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.
11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside.
12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and


10 posted on 08/09/2012 7:48:12 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: bagman

I thought coordinating with a Super PAC was illegal.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 7:48:55 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: libstripper

When lying is all you have, you have to lie about the lies, and then lie some more, especially if the liar is Obama, who is himself a lie.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 7:52:01 AM PDT by pallis
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To: massgopguy

Meanwhile all this coverage is giving a lot more play of the ad than the buys ever would. Question is if the net result is negative for Romney given the stupidity of the target audience.


13 posted on 08/09/2012 7:52:40 AM PDT by AU72
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To: massgopguy
thought coordinating with a Super PAC was illegal.

Only for Republicans.

14 posted on 08/09/2012 7:52:50 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Wurlitzer
The only way progressives (aka Marxist communists) can continue to lie about everything is with the complete corruption of our media.

They want it, they got it.

This issue is going to go away quietly now. They got their point out, the damage is done. Nobody in the media or campaign cares if it's a lie.

And Romney is too big of a wuss to go off on these scumbags.
15 posted on 08/09/2012 7:54:05 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: musicman

Right...and Obamacare will reduce the deficit.


16 posted on 08/09/2012 7:54:24 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: massgopguy

Coordinating with a Super PAC is illegal, and the Obamunists sure as Hell did it here. Soptic’s carefully lawyered remarks on the Obama campaign’s conference call and in the ad are just too similar for it to be any other way.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 7:54:47 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: massgopguy
I thought coordinating with a Super PAC was illegal.

Why, yes...I believe it is illegal. Why on earth would Mr. Obama's campaign be engaging in patently illegal activity, I wonder?

It's almost as if the President and his political lackeys deem themselves to be above the law. Imagine that.
18 posted on 08/09/2012 7:57:32 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: In God I trust
2 Thessalonians 2:11
11.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
19 posted on 08/09/2012 7:59:52 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: mardi59

Why yes, don’t you understand that insurance coverage for contraceptives is far more important than an economy sucking fumes as it continues to slog through depression (the new normal) with millions having lost their life’s savings, their jobs, their careers as they flip burgers?

Maybe if they had decent jobs they could afford to buy their contraceptives...or is that just too harsh?


20 posted on 08/09/2012 8:03:24 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: libstripper

LLPOF


21 posted on 08/09/2012 8:04:32 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs ("Trizzle, trazzle, trozzle, trome, time for this one to come home" - Mr Wizard)
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To: libstripper
Obama and his campaign lie with arrogance and impunity because they know the media will cover for them and there will be no consequences. Saying Obama killed US agents because of Fast and Furious has a much more direct link than Soptic’s allegations, but the corrupt DOJ will stonewall everything.
22 posted on 08/09/2012 8:08:43 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Oo, I’ll play:

Cassius Clay beat Sonny Liston in 1964 for the Heavyweight Championship of the World, but never won another title fight thereafter.


23 posted on 08/09/2012 8:10:09 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: In God I trust

He’s not Satan but he aspires to be.


24 posted on 08/09/2012 8:11:57 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: mmichaels1970

And Romney is too big of a wuss to go off on these scumbags.


Not just a wuss but Romney may simply not have the wherewithal...?
Like when he was ask about Chic-fil-a and he missed an incredibly EASY opportunity to say he supports free speech.
Or, it would have been easy for anyone who has a very basic understanding of how our system works.


25 posted on 08/09/2012 8:12:57 AM PDT by Leep
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

And as the sexually active population gets STDs and then the cancer that typically follows the slowing population growth will produce fewer and fewer new productive members of society to pay taxes that support Obama’s cancer victims.


26 posted on 08/09/2012 8:13:52 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs ("Trizzle, trazzle, trozzle, trome, time for this one to come home" - Mr Wizard)
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To: libstripper

It is possible that they don’t remember. They have told so many lies that they cannot remember them all.


27 posted on 08/09/2012 8:14:11 AM PDT by sport
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Maybe if they had decent jobs they could afford to buy their contraceptives...or is that just too harsh?

*****

Way to harsh. Don’t you know that we aren’t supposed to work. We have to sit home and wait til our gubment checks come in. Since those on welfare don’t pay taxes, just how the heck do these fools expect the gubment to run without money? Maybe that’s what they’re hoping for. No money, no America as we knew it. Just dependency.


28 posted on 08/09/2012 8:14:23 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: libstripper

The left will not even care if the details of this story are true or not. They fit the Left’s stereotype belief of Romney and Bain. That means that - even if THIS story is not true - they believe it represents dozens or hundreds of other similar cases which (in the Leftist minds) are no doubt are true.

“Fake, but accurate” - just like all of the other Obama stooge “archetype” stories.


29 posted on 08/09/2012 8:18:37 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

The Yankees signed Lou Gehrig to their roster, and then he died...


30 posted on 08/09/2012 8:22:14 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: In God I trust

Re: Satan, the great Liar. Yes I’m calling Obama Satan and the ones with him are demons!!

AGEE!!


31 posted on 08/09/2012 8:23:26 AM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: Wurlitzer

Obama had to lie to get elected to his first term. Now again. Lying works in his community.


32 posted on 08/09/2012 8:23:59 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Hope and change has become meanness, lying, fraud, cover-ups, and vindictiveness.)
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To: unixfox
He’s not Satan but he aspires to be.

Satan inside for sure.

33 posted on 08/09/2012 8:24:20 AM PDT by In God I trust
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To: mortal19440
Alinski’s rules for radicals. Read it, it is the campaign strategy. A short summary:

Rules for Power Tactics:

...

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and

And... And....

Rip Photobucket it's head off?

34 posted on 08/09/2012 8:27:20 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Sorry, # 13 is Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.


35 posted on 08/09/2012 8:37:21 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: libstripper
....the widower told the same story on an Obama campaign conference call in mid-May....

Mid-May? C'mon, folks, this is old news. Move along, nothing to see here.

/s

36 posted on 08/09/2012 8:37:47 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: libstripper
Very illuminating article here:
"4: If you look at the steel companies that went under at the time, all of them were unionized," he said. "I'm not saying this was the only factor -- these firms faced other headwinds such as cheap labor and a strong dollar ... but the unions held them back."

"5: For Joe Soptic, who worked at the plant for 28 years, that meant a loss of $283 per month, about 22 percent of his pension."

"6: After nearly 30 years as a steelworker, Joe Soptic found a job as a school custodian. The $24,000 salary was roughly one-third of his former pay"
...
#4 Seems strange. Unionized steel companies all went bankrupt when faced with increased foregin competition, but NOT non-unionized? Let's read below to see if we can solve the mystery.

Well let's see here. For #5, Joe Soptic, he lost $283/month in his pension, which was a 22% decrease. So, what was it before? 22% of x = $283, so x=a monthly pension of $1286. I checked what the AVERAGE pension was for private sector workers here: it's $641 (avg pension of $7692/year). So these guys are getting DOUBLE (!!) the pension of the average private-sector worker. Well how about their wages?

For #6: Joe was making $24k, which was 1/3 of his former pay. That means he was making $72,000 as a steelworker. How does that compare? I checked here at the BLS. Result? Supervisors at steel mills get $28/hr, about $44,000 / year. Really? These guys are making $72,000 a year when the HIGHEST PAID in the steel industry is $44,000 / year.

So, John Hawkins in his blog is railing on Romney as the bailout king. He should REALLY be THANKING Romney for trying to turn GS Technologies around and save the company, by working for 10 years with little to show for it, because HIGH UNION WAGES AND PENSIONS ballooned the company's debt levels and made them UN-prepared to face competition.

That should be the REAL story; that Bain, that actually made "an average annual return on investment of 88 percent between its founding in 1984 and the end of 1999" (88% return? Great job, Mitt!) tried to help out GS."


37 posted on 08/09/2012 8:43:50 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Joe Septic's ad tanked.)
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To: mortal19440
[ Sorry, # 13 is Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. ]

I like my version better Photobucket .

38 posted on 08/09/2012 8:49:55 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: libstripper

do they forget that there are phone calls showing they know about this guy, also that Burton was with their campaign.

Yet again the admin tell a bunch of lies, get caught and their cult following in the media will cover for them.

Does CNN ever report on obama or the economy because every time I see CNN all they do is rport abut useless crap which does not affect us?


39 posted on 08/09/2012 9:04:25 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Milton Miteybad

The media wil lie for them, make this go away and we have millions of dopes which think this is the truth.

The damage is done and Romney and the elitist GOP will not sue, go to court over this, go after their illegal activity for working with a super PAC.

yep 2008 all over again, we play defense and they just atack us all the time with lies.


40 posted on 08/09/2012 9:09:19 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: libstripper
(Joe politicizing wife's death)./....wonder how much he was paid.........
41 posted on 08/09/2012 9:11:16 AM PDT by yoe (Vote for your Country, not a political party.)
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To: Truth29

Any news on the American soldier who was kidnapped by the Talibal, how about the facts over fast and furious, nah the media will make this go away, talk about the boy scouts and those who engage in fecal matter sex and talk about useless crap but they never will report the facts.


42 posted on 08/09/2012 9:12:15 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: StAnDeliver

WOW JUST WOW, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY TO MAKE.


43 posted on 08/09/2012 9:15:29 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DIXIEBELLE2012
Photobucket You ain't seen nothin' yet.
44 posted on 08/09/2012 9:29:01 AM PDT by RetSignman
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

I’ll play.

The Yankees won last night, after a scare. (Went to walk the dog, it was 7-1, got back, it was 8-7, but they pulled it out.)

They won last night due to they used to have Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig, right?


45 posted on 08/09/2012 9:34:19 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: libstripper

Bump


46 posted on 08/09/2012 9:54:30 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: NCLaw441
Babe Ruth killed him.

-PJ

47 posted on 08/09/2012 9:58:04 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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Keep it up King Jerk-A-Boo

In February America will be a no-fly zone for you -

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48 posted on 08/09/2012 10:01:39 AM PDT by devolve (-------------------- ------- "...maybe a little blow..." - Barack Hussein Obama Junior -------------)
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To: Wurlitzer

Actually, for some odd reason, the media IS calling out the Obama people on this and the Bain & tax/felon attacks. Of course, to be “fair,” they then sy that Romney is doing it too with regard to the welfare ad (which is a lie).


49 posted on 08/09/2012 10:26:29 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Obama got elected and 300 Mexicans, a border agent and an ICE employee were killed. Oh crap! This game is harder than I thought.


50 posted on 08/09/2012 10:30:37 AM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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