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To: central_va; BfloGuy
cc: Bfloguy

Re:"Protectionism as you advocate would make our economy even worse."
Tell it to Madison, Monroe,Jefferson and Washington.


Central_va, thanks for pointing that out.

Re:" You obviously don't know any economics"
Just because someone is in favor of tariffs doesn't mean they are economically naive. In my case I am in no way connected to manufacturing. I really wouldn't benefit from tariffs, actually it would seem to affect me adversely. But that is shortsighted. The damage to this country that off shoring had done by economic libertarians, one like yourself that have no allegiance to anyone or any country, is worse. They are traitors and have to be fought, hard. ...
I minored in econ in college. As you get older and WISER, you will understand that economics is taught in a political vacuum, which is ridiculous.


What is interesting it that many so called purveyors of freedom are blind as to why Marx supported free trade devoid of patriotism and ethics from economic consideration.

The consequences are pursuing the cheapest labor, worst working conditions, most lax environmental standards until we all live like serfs in third world countries. People will live in such dire circumstances that they will embrace any communist/Marxist that comes along promising hope and change. This is why I repeat what others have stated: Globalists and 'Free Traders' are communists in business suits.

I must interject here that one reason many voters in the US embraced 'hope and change' is Cultural Marxism's infiltration of our institutions including eduction, the media, and economics. The cultural marxists covered both bases: the left and the right. Their story for the right included: compassionate conservatism, amnesty for the downtrodden, open borders that don't impede free movement of goods and natural persons, maximum short term profits, and the idea that neither ethics nor patriotism have a place in business.
475 posted on 08/06/2012 5:55:53 AM PDT by khelus
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To: khelus
The consequences are pursuing the cheapest labor, worst working conditions, most lax environmental standards until we all live like serfs in third world countries. People will live in such dire circumstances that they will embrace any communist/Marxist that comes along promising hope and change. This is why I repeat what others have stated: Globalists and 'Free Traders' are communists in business suits.

Worth repeating.

476 posted on 08/06/2012 6:01:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: khelus
What is interesting it that many so called purveyors of freedom are blind as to why Marx supported free trade devoid of patriotism and ethics from economic consideration.

What's interesting to me is that the protectionists who want to smear free traders with the taint of Marxism are the ones who actually endorse more government control over the economy. All for the "common good," of course.

Look, Marx did endorse free trade. So, what? He also endorsed manufacturing. Does that make manufacturing Marxist? It's ridiculous logic [if you can call it that] to associate free trade with Marxism if you don't also make the link with everything else he endorsed.

So, either be consistent or drop the phony link to Marxism you depend on and make some real arguments.

I minored in econ in college. As you get older and WISER, you will understand that economics is taught in a political vacuum, which is ridiculous.

Unfortunately, economics as taught in America since WWII is not taught in a political vacuum. Keynesianism reigns and neo-classicism follows close behind. Both are extremely political and favor government intervention. You evidently learned your lessons well.

477 posted on 08/07/2012 3:13:46 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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