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George Will and Jennifer Rubin Demolish Time's Joe Klein on Gun Control Laws
NewsBusters.org ^ | July 22, 2012 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 07/22/2012 3:31:58 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/22/2012 3:32:08 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for posting that. Good read.


2 posted on 07/22/2012 3:51:41 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Kaslin
Note Will's last words included in the excerpt you provided.
WILL: No, a conservative has, I think, a tragic view of life, which is that however clever the experts are going to assemble, and we heard a call earlier in the show for bringing in the experts, and how ever meticulously you draft whatever statute you wind up passing, the world is going to remain a broken place and things like this are going to happen.
I'd have added
'The world is in fact so broken, why are you all so upset worrying about the next maniacal individual? What is a certainty is the fact that all the individual criminals and maniacs the world has ever known have not come close, could never come close, to racking up a death toll anywhere near any of the totalitarian regimes of the last century.
They murdered, under color of authority, over 150 million of their own subjects. And countless billions were left living in fear and slavery and squalor as a consequence. How much less effective would those murdering regimes had been had their subjects been privately armed as are Americans?
I give thanks every day to God for the prescience and wisdom our human-mistrusting but God-fearing founders.'
I am happy Will was even as outspoken today as he was. Too bad he didn't read these Statist-loving media hacks the clear verdict of police states. I imagine close to half the audience at home would have stood up and cheered had he dared say anything close to what I wrote for him. And a good chuck of the others might have learned something.
3 posted on 07/22/2012 4:04:03 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (How humanitarian are "leaders" who back Malthusian, Utilitarian & Green nutcases?)
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To: Kaslin
By contrast, liberals - especially in the media - think government can control every aspect of human behavior...

If liberals had their way half the population would be hired as minders for the other half...

4 posted on 07/22/2012 4:09:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: Kaslin

Gun control laws disarm people who abide by the law. Thank you, government, for taking away a means of self-defense.


5 posted on 07/22/2012 4:13:56 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Kaslin

Shooter is acting out what he saw on screen.

If we are to trade rights for safety ,start with regulating Hollywood.


6 posted on 07/22/2012 4:18:21 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: Kaslin

If people followed the ten commandments, we would not need a single gun law.


7 posted on 07/22/2012 4:19:00 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: popdonnelly

If more in that theater had been packing, the slaughter by this nut would have been cut very short. If he’d even dared to begin it. For that coward, it was like shooting the proverbial fish in a barrel.


8 posted on 07/22/2012 4:21:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: NoLibZone

No Jokering.


9 posted on 07/22/2012 4:22:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: reg45

Well some don’t. But most at least try. The only gun law needed is the 2nd amendment because there are more good (enough) guys than bad ones.


10 posted on 07/22/2012 4:24:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: popdonnelly

They also mentioned that support for gun control has decreased some 30% in the last 35 years. Rendell, Cokie, Klein & George seem genuinely perplexed as to why. You could tell from watching this exchange that they think they are smart enough to prevent these outrages. Yet their bewilderment as to why people won’t let them was palpable. They can’t see that their totalitarian instincts are what the 2nd Amendment was designed to protect us from.


11 posted on 07/22/2012 4:25:27 PM PDT by Belle22
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I do think the shooter was worried about someone exercising his 2nd Amendment right to shoot back, hence his use of body armor and tear gas and shooting from the front where no one was naturally behind him. Unlike most of these monsters, he did not intend to die during the event.


12 posted on 07/22/2012 4:29:23 PM PDT by Belle22
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Would any new laws have prevented the Holder Justice Department from murdering hundreds, if not thousands with Fast and Furious?


13 posted on 07/22/2012 4:29:56 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: Kaslin

The equation is easy.
# of unarmed killed: 12
# of unarmed injured: over 50
# of armed perpetrators: 1
# of armed perpetrators killed: 0
# of armed perpetrators injured: 0

That’s the cost of disarming the law-abiding populace, leaving only the criminals armed.
Criminals by definition do not obey laws.


14 posted on 07/22/2012 4:41:53 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties, we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: NoLibZone

Regulate hollywood? seriously? I believe in the first amendment and not censorship.


15 posted on 07/22/2012 4:47:02 PM PDT by bjcoop
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To: Kaslin

Wiring your house for explosives is illegal, I’m pretty sure. But he did it anyway. Someone who is prepared to kill mass numbers of people doesn’t care that its illegal.


16 posted on 07/22/2012 4:48:48 PM PDT by marron
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This is similar to the “worst weather ever” phenomena. We have always had bad weather and heinous crimes. What is new, is nonstop national media coverage that sensationalizes every event. And we now have the means to immediately distribute news of these events around the world with video, audio and sometimes live.

We have had mass shootings in America dating back to the 1700s - Greencastle school attack, and many heinous mass attacks like the Bath school bombings in 1927 that killed 45 and wounded another 58. We have spree killings even in countries with tougher gun laws. How soon we forget Breivik in Norway killing 77 kids. Or mass murders in the UK, Germany, Japan or France.

As I explained to one of my nutcase liberal FB friends, this could have been far worse. The dude was building explosives in his apartment! He was a graduate student in neuroscience. What if he had taken a bomb into the theater or a deadly chemical or biological agent? The number of dead and wounded could have been far worse. Whether he had access to guns or not, Holmes was intent to kill a lot of people one way or another.

And the gun law “worked” just like you would expect. Cinemark forbid law-abiding gun owners from bringing in their weapons, but strangely, that did not stop the criminal.


17 posted on 07/22/2012 5:06:11 PM PDT by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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To: Kaslin

Yep, the odds went to only four libs to two conservatives on this show.

I guess that seems fair to ABC.


18 posted on 07/22/2012 5:07:47 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: marron

The Happy Land Social club mass killing, which was far more deadly than this killer’s guns, was perpetrated with a plastic milk jug the killer found on the ground and filled with gasoline.


19 posted on 07/22/2012 5:10:04 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Kaslin

Doesn’t really live up to the subject line

Gun control is a myth, what they really mean is Gun Prohibition.

We already have laws that say you can’t randomly kill people .... How’s that working?


20 posted on 07/22/2012 5:17:03 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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