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Sea Treaty all but dead, 34 GOP senators oppose
SFGate.com ^ | 7/16/12 | Donna Cassata - ap

Posted on 07/16/2012 1:14:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: SoFloFreeper

Probably there are more, but it doesn’t really matter once it’s 34.


61 posted on 07/16/2012 5:33:02 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: paddles; xzins
You mean Harry Reid can’t “deem” it ratified?

He can bring it up to a vote when several of the 34 opposing attorneys are not "present". It is not 2/3 of the entire Senate that are required, but merely 2/3 of the Senators "present".

Technically he could call a session when there are nothing but democrats "present" and then vote to ratify.

Our liberties are in danger every minute that Congress is in session.

62 posted on 07/16/2012 5:34:52 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: NormsRevenge
A treasonous treaty supported by those who want to de-sovereignize The United States of America. Can anyone post the names of the traitorous senators who support this? Thank God it is dead..... for now.
63 posted on 07/16/2012 5:36:22 PM PDT by Mister Anderson
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To: NormsRevenge

Not that the vote will stop Obama from implementing it via executive order or having the appropriate agency draft regulations complying with the treaty. Still, it’s good to see the Senate won’t ratify it.


64 posted on 07/16/2012 5:55:53 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Carry_Okie
The President can begin to enforce the treaty ratification or no, pursuant to a treaty that was never ratified but by which the USA has abided for forty years: The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. That is why Bush rescinded the signature on the International Criminal Court treaty.

Exactly why we need to keep a very close watch on the arms treaty that the Marxist Clinton is about to sign. Obama and the rest of the Marxists will start to impose all sorts of gun control regulations. Stinky Harry will never bring this up before the Senate and allow it to be voted down.
65 posted on 07/16/2012 6:01:44 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: saganite
Still, it’s good to see the Senate won’t ratify it.

Yes, they can. Please re-read Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the Constitution: A treaty can be ratified with as few as 34 "Senators PRESENT." Don't think for a minute Harry Reid wouldn't try it with a minimal quorum.

66 posted on 07/16/2012 6:07:53 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: ari-freedom

That was an awesome series. America is Lost, no better a fitting comparison.


67 posted on 07/16/2012 6:08:11 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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Click the link. The Republic you save may be your own.

68 posted on 07/16/2012 6:10:46 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Carry_Okie

We’ve had this discussion before on a thread that was disappeared for some reason. Do you have any idea what happened to get it deleted?


69 posted on 07/16/2012 6:16:59 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: 1010RD
Thanks for posting, and getting the mendacious Henry the K's advocacy out on the table.

Hey, Henry -- where are our other 700 MIA/POW's who were never repatriated by your buddy Le Duc Tho and his DRV goonsquad friends?

70 posted on 07/16/2012 6:18:03 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Ben Ficklin
You may recall that in 2010 it didn't look like START would be ratified but when they got into the lame duck session and voted it did pass with a few votes to spare.

If there's a lame duck session this year, the GOP Senate caucus will have to remain lashed to their desks every minute until Dec. 31st midnight.

Harry Reid will have his 51 'Rats in the door at a sprint, the lights on, the roll call read, and the damn thing gaveled through in 25 minutes flat.

71 posted on 07/16/2012 6:23:38 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: P-Marlowe

Doesn’t the Senate have a “notification of intent” type procedure in which a senator can file his intent to vote on a particular bill so that it can’t be held without his/her vote being included?

If so, then each 34 of these senators needs to make such a filing.


72 posted on 07/16/2012 6:29:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe

All of these leaders can say whtat they want about security, etc., but this LOST treaty gives up the right of discovery on open sea mining. In its place there is an understanding that proceeds go to the UN, landlocked nations, etc.

IOW, it gives the UN ownership of the open seas as far as I’m concerned.


73 posted on 07/16/2012 6:32:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: LS
I appreciate how the Tea Party and primary season has transformed several moderates into conservatives - like my Senator Cornball (Rino-TX).

Thank God for the Tea Party!!


74 posted on 07/16/2012 6:34:29 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Carry_Okie; All

So, how do Bo and Billary get to plow right trough and sign the ATT Treaty on July 27th? Is there any way for these same fine senators to stop that gun grabbing cr@pola??


75 posted on 07/16/2012 6:39:37 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: xzins
Doesn’t the Senate have a “notification of intent” type procedure

Rules are for Republicans. Democrats cheat, lie, steal and do whatever is necessary to give themselves the power to rule over us peons.

The Senate Rules are not in the Constitution. The "present" clause is.

76 posted on 07/16/2012 6:40:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: NormsRevenge

obama don’t need no stinkin Senate approval. He will sign it and enforce it by executive fiat.


77 posted on 07/16/2012 6:40:44 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Ingtar
And that disaster Corker is running for Reelection this year !
78 posted on 07/16/2012 6:47:20 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: MaxMax
Sen Corker who has NOT signed the NO promise is Up.
That CLOWN NEEDS TO BE REMOVED .
HE SOLD US OUT OT THE RUSSIANS VIA THAT AWFUL TREATY.
79 posted on 07/16/2012 6:47:33 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Sen Corker has not said NO !
He is a Rat !


80 posted on 07/16/2012 6:47:42 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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