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Biden connects Irish heritage with Latino struggles
politico44 ^ | 7/10/12 | BYRON TAU

Posted on 07/10/2012 1:51:30 PM PDT by ColdOne

In a pitch to an audience of Hispanic activists, Vice President Joe Biden connected the struggles of Latino Americans to his own Irish heritage.

"There's always been a fight between the voices of inclusion and the voices of exclusion — between those pushing forward and those who continue to try to pull us back," Biden said in remarks to the civil rights group National Council of La Raza.

Biden recalled that Irish Americans too faced a wave of discrimination and bigotry when they arrived en masse in the 19th and 20th centuries, with signs like "No Irish allowed" or "No irish need apply" greeting them in many major American cities.

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1 posted on 07/10/2012 1:51:32 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Biden is such an idiot.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 1:53:12 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: ColdOne

Joe Biden is Irish?

Who knew?


3 posted on 07/10/2012 1:54:06 PM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: ColdOne

4 posted on 07/10/2012 1:55:09 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: alloysteel

He’s one-half or one-quarter...

...but 100% stupid!


5 posted on 07/10/2012 1:56:13 PM PDT by mkboyce
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To: bkepley

“Biden is such an idiot.”

Yes, and Joe-Joe is the SMART one on the ticket.


6 posted on 07/10/2012 1:58:17 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: alloysteel

Mom was a Finnegan


7 posted on 07/10/2012 1:58:58 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: ColdOne

"All right... we'll give some land to the n@ggers and the ch@nks. But we don't want the Irish!"

8 posted on 07/10/2012 1:59:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: ColdOne
Joe Biden could have waxed eloquent on the contribution of Bernardo O'Higgins to the liberation of Latin America.

O'Higgins was literally a bastard, Biden is only metaphorically one.

9 posted on 07/10/2012 2:05:58 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: ColdOne

Big difference - the Irish came to this country to be Americans; the Mexicans come to this country to “reclaim” it for Mexico - the New Conquistadores.


10 posted on 07/10/2012 2:06:02 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ColdOne

Even the Irish spoke English, Joe.


11 posted on 07/10/2012 2:08:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ColdOne
Irish Americans too faced a wave of discrimination and bigotry when they arrived en masse in the 19th and 20th centuries, with signs like "No Irish allowed" or "No irish need apply" greeting them in many major American cities.

Irish Americans did indeed face a wave of discrimination during the 1840s and 50s, much of it not unreasonable, since the Irish presented, at the time, social problems very similar to those of the urban underclass today. PC ignoring of such problems and their relationship to ethnicity had yet to develop.

The "No Irish need apply" signs and want ads being widespread is an urban legend. Here is an absolutely fascinating study pretty thoroughly destroying the myth.

http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm

The Irish, despite genuine prejudice against them and the handicap of their underclass status and habits, worked their way out of this bind by their own efforts. Here is another fascinating article on how they accomplished this, perhaps the classic example of an ethnic group pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. I found the section about the very real social pathologies of the mid-19th century Irish particularly interesting.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/7_2_a2.html

12 posted on 07/10/2012 2:13:44 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ColdOne

13 posted on 07/10/2012 2:14:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Sherman Logan

thanks for those links


14 posted on 07/10/2012 2:20:09 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eat my dog!)
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To: dfwgator

Says the guy whose face is a map of Ireland. BTW, “Chinks” is not edited out.


15 posted on 07/10/2012 2:20:19 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ColdOne

Paddy O’Pander sleazes some phony solidarity with his Mexican gardener. “Begorrah, we’re both oppressed minorities!”


16 posted on 07/10/2012 2:27:59 PM PDT by Argus
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To: ColdOne

“But then we in America prevailed because of the better angels of the American people,”

Can somebody please explain what he’s babbling about?


17 posted on 07/10/2012 2:34:48 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: ColdOne
Yo, Bite-me: I'm Irish and I am offended by your comments.

WE

WERE

HERE

LEGALLY!


18 posted on 07/10/2012 2:34:48 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: ColdOne
So which Hispanics are being excluded? Is Biden saying this is being done by conservatives? By Republicans?

Does wanting the United States to have secure borders and keep out anyone sneaking in, without being checked for simple things (that EVERY country on this Earth does) such as virulent disease, terrorism ties, InterPol law enforcement lists, etc, sound like last Century's Irish discrimination to ANYONE?

Is he rather implying we hate Hispanics, people with Mexican ancestry, people whose forefathers came from Porto Rico, Spain, Cuba, Hondouras, Brazil, etc.??? Is that what this clown is saying?

19 posted on 07/10/2012 2:42:25 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: ColdOne

Joe thinks his ancestors were Black Irish......


20 posted on 07/10/2012 2:47:12 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Ayn Rand: "In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win")
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To: ColdOne
"There's always been a fight between the voices of inclusion and the voices of exclusion — between those pushing forward and those who continue to try to pull us back," Biden said in remarks to the civil rights group National Council of La Raza.

A classic comment. Without bothering to prove why this is the case, he just assumes that amnesty for illegals and/or dropping all efforts to control the border constitutes "moving forward."

This is the logical fallacy of petitio principii, or "begging the question"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

21 posted on 07/10/2012 2:50:40 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 5thGenTexan

It’s pretty much the same thing as homosexualists comparing their “struggle” to the civil rights struggles of the `60s.

Black people: “Huh? Say WHAT?!”


22 posted on 07/10/2012 2:59:54 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: bkepley

IIRC, the Irish did not swiim the Atlantic and enter the country illegally.


23 posted on 07/10/2012 5:40:51 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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