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1 posted on 07/10/2012 11:23:45 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Senators in all but the bluest of states who run afoul of the NRA can count on extreme difficulty getting reelected. They’d be very well advised to give a resounding thumbs-down on this treaty.


2 posted on 07/10/2012 11:29:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: neverdem
Proponents of the Arms Trade Treaty argue that inadequate controls over the international arms market result in armed violence against civilians by human rights violators, criminals, gangs, warlords, and terrorists.

Who can blame them? The BATF gave thousands of high-powered rifles to the drug lords of Mexico, killing thousands of legitimate Mexican citizens. H*ll, if 2,000 Mexican illegals were shot in the USA, all hell would break out amongst the liberals.

Fast and Furious is simply state-supported terrorism. It's a disgrace.

3 posted on 07/10/2012 11:30:01 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: neverdem
More UN control and an even bigger market for illegal gun dealers.
Neither of those should be on our wish list.

Why don't UN go defend the pyramids and show us that it can do something right.
It's relatively limited in scope. If they can't do that, then why does anyone think that UN can, or should, control the whole world.

4 posted on 07/10/2012 11:34:04 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: neverdem
'Kimball says the regulation of domestic gun possession is totally outside the scope of the treaty. Sarah Parker... agrees. "There is no attempt in the Arms Trade Treaty to control the internal regulation of weapons, only international transfers," she says. Both experts say there is misinformation about the effort."

This is boldest leftwing lie since "peaceful coexistence" and here's why.

First, a link to the text of the treaty as it stands now: "The Arms Trade Treaty (A/RES/64/48)"

Excerpted below is the section of this Treaty that calls on States{nations} for an implementation:

"Calls upon all States to implement, on a national basis, the relevant recommendations contained in section VII of the report of the Group of Governmental Experts (See A/63/334)."
Next is a link to the text of the referenced report: "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts to examine the feasibility, scope and draft parameters for a comprehensive, legally binding instrument establishing common international standards for the import, export and transfer of conventional arms (A/63/334)"

Excerpted below is the only one of three section (27-29) in above referenced "section VII" ("Conclusions and recommendations") dictating the responsibilities and required actions of signatory States:

29. The Group acknowledged the respective responsibilities of exporters and importers. In order to begin improving the current situation, the Group recognized the need for all States to ensure that their national systems and internal controls are at the highest possible standards, and that States in a position to do so could render assistance in this regard, upon request. {Emphasises added.}
How can America agreeing to implement UN requested "internal controls" of our "nation system" of gun regulations not be surrendering American 2nd Amendment rights?

Once signing such a treaty, what should Americans expect if the UN should "request" a tighter "standard" of US "internal controls" on guns and America's elected government officials refuses to comply?

All out LAWFARE, financed by the same leftist front groups (Soros' included) to force compliance through US courts! Note the "supremacy clause" of the Constitution which provides that the “Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.” {Emphasis added}

6 posted on 07/10/2012 11:46:28 AM PDT by drpix
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To: neverdem

“Parker says it would be impossible to come up with a universal definition for military arms that would be comprehensive or effective in preventing irresponsible transfers—the ultimate goal of the treaty.”

He’s probably right. So the solution is to ban-em-all


7 posted on 07/10/2012 11:47:26 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: neverdem

Obozo has a lotta nerve supporting international gun control when his bro, Holder, advances it.


9 posted on 07/10/2012 11:51:38 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: neverdem
just say no

Absolutely. Any more power to the UN or any treaty that limits our rights, no matter how little, will set a precedent for the next more aggressive treaty.

10 posted on 07/10/2012 11:52:13 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: neverdem

“The treaty would require governments.....to develop national laws and regulations governing imports and exports.”

Wait. I thought Parker said “nothing would change in regards to the United States.” Require..develop laws...govern imports and exports..

Nothing to see here folks. Move along..move along.


12 posted on 07/10/2012 11:52:45 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: neverdem

Obozo has a lotta nerve supporting international gun control when his bro, Holder, advances international gun transfers.


13 posted on 07/10/2012 11:53:00 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: neverdem

Even SEMI-AUTOMATIC rifles!!!! Pretty scary. Just think maybe even your neighbor has a SEMI-AUTOMATIC rifle.

When will the media ever bother to learn anything about guns? Or maybe they do know but they figure that 3/4’s of the idiots in this country don’t know anything and can be easily swayed by BS.


14 posted on 07/10/2012 12:43:26 PM PDT by zagger
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To: neverdem

GOA is likewise going after these anti RKBA UN zealots! Just another reason to turn the UN building into a homeless shelter and ship those slugs back to whatever Turd-World lash-up they came from!


15 posted on 07/10/2012 12:55:51 PM PDT by donozark (Col. C.Beckwith:I'd rather go down the river with 7 studs than with a hundred shitheads.)
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To: neverdem
If you've never stood in front of this sculpture funded by Yoko Ono, in memory of her husband, that stands at the entrance of the UN plaza, NYC...take a good look and ponder it's significance.


16 posted on 07/10/2012 1:28:40 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
17 posted on 07/10/2012 2:16:21 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem

Over their dead bodies.


20 posted on 07/10/2012 3:32:54 PM PDT by Noumenon (I will not pay the Obama jizya.)
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To: neverdem

Please someone post the picture of the blue helmet

It says everything I would like to say about this

TT


21 posted on 07/10/2012 3:44:05 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: neverdem
This treaty, in all likelihood, will not require the United States to do anything more than it is already doing.

Even if the treaty would not require the federal government to do more, would the treaty permit the federal government to do more than it is currently allowed to do? Read Missouri v. Holland.

23 posted on 07/11/2012 9:06:41 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: marktwain

Good for the NRA...

ping


25 posted on 07/11/2012 9:21:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (Marion Berry: 'If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate')
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To: neverdem

“it could impact gun registration requirements in the United States,”
The NRA is in denial of gun registration. Guns in America have been registered since 1968 GCA.


26 posted on 07/11/2012 11:27:08 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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