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IRS Geared Up For Obamacare Individual Mandate Tax
Eurasia Review ^ | July 3, 2012 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 07/03/2012 12:31:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

When the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of Obamacare’s individual mandate on Thursday — and in fact dubbed it a tax in spite of the Obama administration’s denials — no one was more jubilant this past weekend than the recently hired agents at the Internal Revenue Service who get to keep their jobs, according to a law enforcement official in Washington, D.C. Their jobs are now safe and secure.

Over the weekend, President Barack Obama’s minions swarmed the Sunday morning news shows arguing that Americans were not going to be taxed to raise money for Obamacare, yet reporters failed to point out that it will be tax collectors, who will be responsible for gathering the cash to pay for the largest government expansion in U.S. history, according to economists and political strategists.

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) executives are witnessing the largest manpower expansion — at least since withholding taxes were first introduced by President Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II — to enforce the new tax mandates and penalties included in the health care law, according to Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX).

According to Brady, a new analysis by the Joint Economic Committee and the House Ways & Means Committee staff estimates up to 6,500 new IRS personnel will be necessary to collect, examine and audit new tax information mandated on families and small businesses as a result of the Affordable Care Act.

“When most people think of health care reform they think of more doctors exams, not more IRS exams,” said Congressman Brady, a top House Republican on the Joint Economic Committee. “Isn’t the federal government already intruding enough into our lives? We need thousands of new doctors and nurses in America, not thousands more IRS agents.”

Included within the expanded staff is an increase in the number of criminal investigators whose job will be to “make cases” whenever possible in order to increase financial penalties, according to tax lawyer John Kubisty.

Scores of new federal mandates and about 21 different tax increases totaling $400 billion are imposed under Obamacare, many of the increases hidden from voters, according to finance experts such as Fox Business Channel’s Stuart Varney.

In addition to more complicated tax returns, families and small businesses will be forced to reveal further tax information to the IRS, provide proof of government approved health care and submit detailed sales information to comply with new excise taxes.

Unfortunately, according to the Center for American Progress, the structure of the IRS’ use of private agencies to collect “debts” encourages abuse. Under the current program, collectors are awarded as much as 25 cents of every dollar they collect, in addition to a $100 bonus for every account they close.

The Internal Revenue Service strategy of paying private debt collectors a 25 percent commission to collect unpaid tax debt originally met with bipartisan resistance from Congress. Members of Congress claimed that the proposal jeopardized the rights and privacy of American taxpayers.

Several organizations voiced their objections to the IRS proposal and have expressed their strong support for the consumer protection legislation Rep. Chris Van Hollen introduced: Citizens for Tax Justice, Consumer Federation of America, Consumers Union, National Consumer Law Center, National Consumers League.

According to political consultant Mike Baker. the very nature of the program provides incentives for collectors to push the limits of legality to extract a little more revenue from their targets. As part of the IRS Restructuring and Reform Act of 1998, Congress, fearing overly aggressive collection practices, explicitly prohibited the IRS from compensating its own collectors based on the amount of money they collect.

“If Congress believes that incentive-based pay will cause official IRS collectors to cross the line, why would they think private collectors would behave any differently?” asked Baker.

Although IRS officials indicated that the purpose of the limited implementation phase was to assure readiness for full implementation using up to 12 private collection agencies, the IRS has not documented how it will identify and use the lessons learned to ensure that each critical success factor is addressed before expanding the program even further during the current atmosphere of extraordinary government spending.

IRS officials indicated that they are considering criteria that could trigger a go/no go decision, such as the amount of penalties collected from Americans unwilling or unable to purchase health care insurance and there are some indications of private collection agencies abusing taxpayers or misusing taxpayer data.

“It’s a sad situation when the President and Commander in Chief is drastically cutting defense spending including reducing the size of the military while at the same time hiring more tax collectors to squeeze every dime — the dime Obama said would never be levied against Americans — out of taxpayers,” said Baker.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bhofascism; hillarycare; obamacare; obamacaretaxes; romneycare; romneydeathpanels; socializedmedicine; taxes
From what I understand those of us who use the Veterans Affairs hospitals are exempt (at least for now), but there are new taxes in there that EVERYONE will be paying. I have heard that there will be taxes on the sale of property, transaction fees on every financial action and many more.
1 posted on 07/03/2012 12:31:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The other day, I read that Obama has threatened not to sign the defense budget unless it increases Tricare premiums.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 12:34:18 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The purpose of government is to tax, hadn't you heard?
3 posted on 07/03/2012 12:36:58 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
IRS Geared Up For Obamacare Individual Mandate Tax

"Geared-Up" = more bureaucracy and intrusion. I guess his heinous, Emperor 0bama, will be crowing that there is a hiring surge!

4 posted on 07/03/2012 12:38:45 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that bastard out of MY White House!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am going to become a retired hermit, they can f*** themselves SMSGT USAF retired in hiding. The trouble they will just screw with my retirement pay or SS.


5 posted on 07/03/2012 12:38:50 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And then, there’s this

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/235905-house-gop-looks-to-starve-irs-of-funds-to-implement-healthcare-law

(Do I even need to say please call/ fax/ email to express your support?)


6 posted on 07/03/2012 12:40:52 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This says only 6500 new IRS agents.

I thought the number was much higher.


7 posted on 07/03/2012 12:42:48 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So they have all these new IRS agents who will not even be needed until 2014-2015? Just like the private sector, right?


8 posted on 07/03/2012 12:46:07 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: nascarnation

I think the “ultimate” number they feel they will need for policing the 0bamacare taxes is 18,000.


9 posted on 07/03/2012 12:47:37 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

military members will be among the first sheep herded into obamacare


10 posted on 07/03/2012 12:49:33 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

11 posted on 07/03/2012 12:50:58 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: boomop1
The trouble they will just screw with my retirement pay or SS.

Perfect illustration as to why you cannot depend on the Government.

What they so freely give....they can also take away ;)

12 posted on 07/03/2012 12:51:17 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: NEMDF

Obama’s new economic plan. Everybody who is unemployed can work for the IRS ripping off those that are working.

Aint this a great country?


13 posted on 07/03/2012 12:53:19 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The nitty gritty of what is hidden within the following pages:

PG 22 MANDATES the gov will audit all books of all employers who self insure

Pg 29 lines 4 thru 16 Healthcare rationing you can only receive so much care per year regardless of your needs 5000$per individual 10000$per family

Pg 30 sec 123 there will be a gov committee that decides what benefits and treatments you will receive

Pg 42 the healthcare commissioner will choose your healthcare benefits for you. You have no choice

Pg 52 healthcare will be provided to all non us citizens illegal or otherwise

Pg 58 the government will have real time access to your finances and a national ID card will be issued.

Pg 59 lines 21 thru 24 the government will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfers

Pg 65 sec 164 this is a pay off subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions and community organizations such as ACORN

PG 72 LINES 8 thru 14 here the government is creating a health care exchange to bring private health care plans under government control

Pg 84 sec 203 the government mandates all benefit packages for private health care plans in the exchange.

Pg 85 line 7 AARP members your healthcare will be rationed

Pg 91 lines 4 thru 7 government mandates linguistic appropriate services for translation for illegal aliens

Pg 95 lines 8 thru 18 the government will use groups like ACORN and AMERICORE to sign up individually for government health care plan.

Pg 102 lines 12 thru 18 medicade eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in medicade you have no choice

Pg 124 lines 24 thru 25 no company can sue the government on price fixing and there will be no judicial review against the government monopoly

Pg 126 lines 22 thru 25 employers must pay for health care for part time employees and their families

Pg 127 lines 1 thru 16 doctors and the American medical association; the government will tell you how much money you can make

Pg 145 lines 15 thru 17 all employers must enroll employees into the government plan you have no choice Pg 149 lines 16 thru 24 an employer with a payroll of 400k dollars and up who does not provide the government option will pay an 8 percent tax on all payroll

Pg 150 line 9 thru 13 any employer with a payroll between 251k thru 400 who does not provide the government option will pay a 2 to 6 percent tax on all payroll

Pg 167 any individual who does not have acceptable health care coverage according to the government will be taxed 2.5 percent

Pg 170 lines 1 thru 3 any non resident alien is exempt from individual taxes you and I will pay for them

Pg 195 officers and employees of the health care administration will have access to all Americans financial and personal records

Pg 203 lines 14 thru 15 the tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax

Pg 239 lines 14 thru 24 the government will reduce physicians services for medicade the seniors, the poor and the low income will suffer even more than they do now

Pg 241 lines 6 thru 8 all doctors no matter what specialty will be paid the same

Pg 253 lines 10 thru 18 the government will set the value of doctors time and professional judgments literally the value of human life

Pg 268 sec 1141 the federal government regulates rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs

Pg 272 sec 1145 regarding the treatments of certain cancer hospitals cancer patients welcome to rationing

Pg 280 sec 1151 the government will penalize hospitals for what the government deems preventable readmission

Pg 317 lines 13 thru 20 prohibition on ownership and investment the government tells doctors what and how much they can own

Pg 341 lines 3 – 9 government has the authority to disqualify HMO’s forcing all into the government health plan

Pg 354 sec 1177 government will restrict enrollment of special needs individuals

Seniors will be interviewed every year as to what care they can and cannot receive and they will be counciled on final death preparations etc.

Government will also instruct on living wills and durable powers of attorney this is mandatory

Government provides approved lists of end of life resources guiding you into death. Government mandates programs for orders for end of life

FreedomREigns.US

14 posted on 07/03/2012 12:57:15 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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15 posted on 07/03/2012 1:00:24 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; TheOldLady; WildHighlander57; netmilsmom; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; ...
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16 posted on 07/03/2012 1:02:00 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

regarding the transaction fees is there a reference to this somewhere? I found this:

HR 4646 will become law if Obama is re-elected

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2844004/posts

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr4646

From post 2
I found this with very little looking.

Analysis: Quite misleading. It’s true (as of this writing) that there’s a bill in the House of Representatives, the Debt Free America Act (H.R. 1125), which would impose a one percent tax on certain financial transactions if passed, and it’s also true that the bill was introduced by a Democrat, Rep. Chaka Fattah of Pennsylvania (who introduced more or less the same legislation in 2010 as H.R. 4646).

However, the legislation has zero co-sponsors, nor has it ever been acknowledged, let alone endorsed or supported, by anyone in the Obama administration.

Moreover, contrary to what is repeatedly claimed in the email, under the proposed legislation personal bank deposits would not be subject to subject to the tax. Section 4501(b)(2) of the current version of the bill reads as follows:

EXCEPTIONS- The term ‘specified transaction’ shall not include—
(A) any transfer between accounts of the taxpayer, and
(B) any deposit into a personal account of an individual.

Like all previous iterations of the Debt Free America Act, the 2011 version isn’t expected to be voted on, let alone passed by Congress.


17 posted on 07/03/2012 1:14:42 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

See this post re: HR 4646 - Transaction tax

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2902380/posts?page=130#130


18 posted on 07/03/2012 1:18:02 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
The other day, I read that Obama has threatened not to sign the defense budget unless it increases Tricare premiums. That is correct - after it was promised by Panetta that Tricare would not go up ...
19 posted on 07/03/2012 1:22:04 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: concerned about politics

From 2010

IRS Acquiring Shotguns

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=8d3b076bd4de14bbda5aba699e80621d&tab=core&_cview=1&cck=1&au=&ck=

From 2010

16,500 New IRS Agents Will Be Needed to Enforce Obamacare

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2010/03/16500-new-irs-agents-will-be-needed-to-enforce-obamacare/

From 2010
The IRS’s vast new ObamaCare powers.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704518904575365223062942574.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

Taxes being collected now - Death Panel Tax - New fee coming for medical effectiveness research

http://news.yahoo.com/fee-coming-medical-effectiveness-research-165007641.html


20 posted on 07/03/2012 1:34:10 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The lib commies used the most hated and despised alphabet agency in existance to enforce this. They are truly at war with the American People.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 1:49:51 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: concerned about politics

I absolutely can’t do some of this stuff such as be interviewed yearly, etc. I have a horrible fear of “official” stuff, paperwork, overseers, lines...anything bureaucracy oriented. It is all I can do to get through at the DMV or the airport scenario. Don’t know if there is a name for it but I have something like bureaucratic-phobia. It sounds weird, I know.


22 posted on 07/03/2012 1:59:18 PM PDT by Anima Mundi (ENVY IS JUST PASSIVE, LAZY GREED)
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To: nascarnation
This says only 6500 new IRS agents.

I thought the number was much higher.

About twice that many AND they will all be authorized to carry guns. More of Obama's Army. See any similarities to Germany in the '30's?

23 posted on 07/03/2012 2:16:43 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

Well a lot of federal agents can carry guns.

The postal inspectors carry guns.

When my tickets for the Indy 500 didn’t show up in the mail, I contacted the track and they had two armed postal inspectors at the grandstand to help persuade the folks sitting in my seats that they belonged to me.


24 posted on 07/03/2012 2:22:24 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The upshot being that Obama - our Kenyan/Indonesian president, who was never eligible to run for office in the first place - has succeeded in ushering in the Marxist Superstate he’s sought since taking the oath of office; and all without any mandate whatsoever from congress and without the approval of the majority of the American people.

Congratulations, America - you’ve been shackled with tyranny despite the best efforts of the Founders and countless Cold War heroes.


25 posted on 07/03/2012 2:30:54 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here are the facts on the 3.8% sales tax on homes. Very few will fall in this catagory, but NO ONE SHOULD.

Sales Tax

26 posted on 07/03/2012 2:41:03 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Good point.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 3:01:17 PM PDT by Sal Utation
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t moonshiners have a traditional “treatment” for annoying “revenoors” who come poking around their operations?


28 posted on 07/03/2012 3:07:51 PM PDT by DNME (Tired of being polite about it? Time for action? Reawaken the Sons of Liberty!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Roberts and Obama have destroyed freedom in the U.S..The states need to secede from the union. And then those states write a new constitution that the federal governments only roles are in defending the country from Foreign threats like illegals and china. Never will it be allowed for government at any level to get involved in schools, healthcare, or welfare or charity. The only thing the government could have a small role is in roads but as they already ruined that So governments should only deal with police(local), military and border control( federal), roads( states), courts ( to protect individual and property rights and only a sales tax and tarrifs allowed at any level of government. That means an EPA, government schools, dept of energy, are always illegal.

Democrats really believe that the people who run the department of motor vehicles or government schools (Like a high school principle etc.) will be able to provide the cutting edge technology and diagnostics to save our lives. Add to that government rationing , waiting lines of months etc. and you see that you or your loved ones will die( and suffer) in one of those lines or from getting inferior treatment from one of these government doctors. government/socialism doesn't work.

Look at the totalitarian goofballs like school teachers and staff and imagine those creeps trying to find cutting edge treatments, cutting edge technology , to save your life when you need it fast and efficiently and competently. Democrats really prefer this than to have freedom of choice and freedom.

Before I could go to any doctor in the U.S. , of my choice and if I didn't like his treatment or if he didn't cure me then I could find another. And I paid a whopping $250 per month for this health insurance. now that's pretty low when you consider rent for an apartment is $800 per month, payments and insurance for a car is close to that $600 etc.. Yeah democrats want to be cheap and think they will get something for free. What they'll get is 2 years on a waiting list for what for garbage care. And we already had medicaid, medicare for the poor and elderly, also some free state hospitals here in this state. No this wasn't enough for democrats.You have taken away freedom of choosing your doctor.
In the free market you can choose from thousands of doctors . but soon you can only go to a doctor that the government tells you . And if you don't like him well too bad. democrats/liberals/socialists are insane.

2700 pages of government control , bureaucracies, death panels, a taking a way of freedoms. Anyone who upholds this socialism and government control was never a conservative. Roberts and other liberals think all this will be better to have government control us more and to lose our freedom. Se we'll pay 22 new taxes to be put on a waiting list for 2 years so a DMV doctor tells us there is nothing wrong with us ( as happens now in England). And liberals are celebrating this. Now they can tax us to control everything we do or don't do. This is not freedom , socialism doesn't work. Europe is in decline and so is the U.S. all due to the democrats/socialists and the media

29 posted on 07/03/2012 3:18:30 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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30 posted on 07/03/2012 3:29:53 PM PDT by unique1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But Obama’s trying to force Tri-care rates and fees up.


31 posted on 07/03/2012 4:54:35 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: nascarnation

There is currently a software application used by the federal government for collection of back child support and money for federally backed student loans. It looks for local, state and federal income tax refunds and other “bonus” payments. The program then triggers a transfer, for example with a state income tax refund, and sends it to your kids’ guardian or your federal income tax debt, in the order prescribed by the government. They aren’t garnishing your account, just intercepting and then reapplying the money.
There is already a proposal by the contractor to apply the same software to collecting the Obamacare fee. If put into practice, the Obamacare mandate fine that is limited by law from being taken from your bank account can still be taken from a state income tax refund.
The interesting thing will be if the fine for lack of approved insurance is applied even if your state opts out of Obamacare.


32 posted on 07/03/2012 5:00:28 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Their jobs are now safe and secure.

BWAHAHAH They've just taken the most dangerous jobs in America. They are unaware of it as yet. What's funny is the real audit will be of the IRS, names, addresses, personal info disseminated for all online when the resistance starts. Want to play agents of tyranny? We shall see how bad you really want the job.
33 posted on 07/03/2012 6:23:34 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here it comes! IRS unleashed!


34 posted on 07/03/2012 7:02:50 PM PDT by sarah palin rocks
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To: TheBigJ

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


35 posted on 07/03/2012 7:17:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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To: boomop1

These IRS Agents are no better than King George’s men. To hell with all of them.
Hell, it makes total sense that one of Hitler’s grand-nephews was a damn IRS agent (look up Howard Stuart-Houston).


36 posted on 07/03/2012 7:31:36 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; TigersEye

I can see that the federal government has become the enemy of the People.

The only question I have, is why cannot the rest of America see that?

Its fairly plain, bald and in everyone’s face.

Obama must go. He can walk or be carried, doesn’t matter much one way or the other.


37 posted on 07/03/2012 11:40:22 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

full implementation using up to 12 private collection agencies>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Collection Agencies owned and operated by Obama political thugs from Chicago, no doubt.

Talk about a shake down of the People.Al Capone couldn’t have had a better plan than these Obama fascist thugs have.

Its time to take our country back from these thugs.


38 posted on 07/03/2012 11:45:50 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

The U.S. economy is toast. It will never recover and will be buried by this.


39 posted on 07/04/2012 8:35:12 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes. ObamaCare includes a new tax of 3.8% on the sale of your house if over $300K. That’s $19,000 new tax to Obama on the sale of a $500K home. Friends in Hollywood will be exempt.


40 posted on 07/04/2012 8:49:34 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: rurgan

According to Fox radio, since ObamaCare was upheld, an additional 13,000 pages have been added to the law.


41 posted on 07/04/2012 8:54:03 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

According to Fox radio, since ObamaCare was upheld, an additional 13,000 pages have been added to the law

probably more government regulations. These regulations are crippling U.s. businesses and destroying our freedom. And democrats everywhere love all these new laws and regulations: They are sick socialist bastards . so is Roberts and obama.
“give me liberty or give me death!”


42 posted on 07/04/2012 2:17:14 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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since ObamaCare was upheld, an additional 13,000 pages have been added to the law

I simply don't believe it.

There's no way govt employees would accomplish that much on a holiday week.

43 posted on 07/04/2012 2:20:35 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation; rurgan

“There’s no way govt employees would accomplish that much on a holiday week.”

...in DC City w/o electricity, w/o a/c, and with tempers higher than the outside temp. It would be to the whole countries advantage, especially for all of us in fly-over country, for the power outage to continue at least until January 21, 2013.


44 posted on 07/04/2012 2:34:07 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Candor7
ull implementation using up to 12 private collection agencies>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Collection Agencies owned and operated by Obama political thugs from Chicago, no doubt.


My first thought was to look at the donation records of the folks behind thsoe 12 companies.
45 posted on 07/04/2012 4:48:25 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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