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1 posted on 07/03/2012 5:06:28 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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2 posted on 07/03/2012 5:07:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...

Romney has no choice because his on record saying this about Romney-care in the past.

I remember Coulter, Rove, McCain, Christie,... and a bunch of RINOs where I live claiming that Romney-care would not be a problem in this race against Obama and Obam-ney Care.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 5:13:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us. (it's Obam-ney Care))
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This is largely what John McCain did in 2008 -- "What did Barack say? Well, I agree with him."

That's no way to run a serious campaign, Sparky.

4 posted on 07/03/2012 5:14:17 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Choosing between Roger Taney and John Roberts would be difficult.)
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Incredible stupidity. This is why the ‘Pubbies lose elections. The man isn’t elected yet, and is already stabbing conservatives in the back. We are SO screwed.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 5:16:17 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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Time to mutiny, the new captain of the SS GOP has no clue how to steer the ship, has out of date maps for the shoals and thinks his vessel is unsinkable.


7 posted on 07/03/2012 5:17:42 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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Way to go Mitt...stop being stupid and taking a winning issue off the table.

dumbazz.


8 posted on 07/03/2012 5:22:07 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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It matters not what the camp or Obama says. The question is decided. The argument is over. It is a Tax. The issue is decided.

If there is disagreement or disdain or hate, the remedy is not involved with what is or is not a tax. The remedy is involved in a process that tosses the tax out and doing it over in an acceptable manner.

Grumbling after the fact is irrelevant. It is a tax. The decision was handed down


10 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:01 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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Romney appears to be the typical Republican Establishment presidential candidate, in the mold of Dole/McCain/Ford. His idea os the pinnacle is the Republican Party Nomination. He seems, at best, to be indifferent to winning the presidency, perhaps even averse. The Republican Party is afflicted with Gentlemen Politicians who want the acclaim of other Republican gentlemen but not so much the onus of governing.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:06 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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“Reagan-like Romney is,” eh?


12 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:25 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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We can't have it both ways - criticizing Roberts for calling it a tax to make it constitutional then trashing Romney for agreeing, and not calling it a tax. Romney is siding with the dissenters, who made a much more compelling argument against the law. (All that commerce clause stuff feels good, but in not binding as precedent.)

The argument against Obama that he passed the biggest tax increase ever based on Obamacare is weak. The fact he thinks the Federal Gov’t can run health care better than the private sector and that he rammed through this unpopular socialist program remains the issue. It is what won the 2010 mid-terms. And, he ignored other pressing issues while ramming away. This is also a strong counter argument against immigration policy, economy issues, etc.

Although we all would have rather Roberts side with the conservatives on the Court, this decision will bring a lot of energy, anger and participation to those on the right. It may turn out to be the deciding factor in November. We need the Tea Partiers to get revved up again!

Romney is right - it is not, nor should have been ruled a tax. That being said, since it was ruled a tax, reconciliation works in the Senate and we only need 51 votes to overturn there- need 4 more seats. That is where the action will be!

We need Romney and 4 Senators to take back the country. During Romney's 8 years, a bunch of liberals will likely leave bench and with the Senate, we can get some real conservative appointed.

13 posted on 07/03/2012 5:33:54 AM PDT by dan on the right
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This is just the opposite of what’s being reported today. They are saying today that Romney agrees it is a tax. Gov Christie says its both a tax and a penalty.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 5:34:32 AM PDT by Harley
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Every response on this thread, so far has bitten into the media bias, hook, line and sinker. It is leading into destructive behavior; Romney’s stupid, Romney’s doing what McCain did, etc, etc.

At worst, the Romney camp is guilty of not giving a clear and concise response. While that is a problem in and of itself, it is a far cry from capitulation to obama on the issue. And what is worse, Romney is right; it IS a penalty.

The Dems are trying to have it both ways; it’s NOT a tax, but rather a penalty (despite what the SC says) and it’s constitutional (despite what the SC says).

The Romney camp is saying, Gov. Romney has ALWAYS held that it was a penalty, and it’s constitutionally legal in the state of Mass. The problem is that they haven’t gone the extra step to explain how that fits with the SC ruling on the issue. Instead of lining it out in simple terms, they fumbled and assumed that people are smart enough to know the difference.

It’s obvious through the response of the libs, and the dazed look on the faces of people you talk to, that Civics 101, as taught in the US education system fails teach people how it all works. And that, combined with some people’s hate of Romney, or anyone else who is not a pure-strain conservative as they view themselves, is what will be the ultimate down-fall of our great nation.

My advice; teach people where they need to be taught. Die hard liberals won’t listen; most everyone else will, as long as you are teaching; not preaching.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 5:35:24 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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IT IS A TAX. The Supreme Court said so

http://www.mittromney.com/forms/other

http://twitter.com/MittRomney

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney

Thank you, bboop!


18 posted on 07/03/2012 5:39:24 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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Why do peddle Lies and Propaganda from the Compost .
Rombey did not say that but the Obama media is pushing that bs.

Are you trying to help the Obama media push this talking point here and divide US and get obama elected !

I don’t trust your motives here !!!


19 posted on 07/03/2012 5:41:54 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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No clearer example of why Romney was never the best choice from the GOP field.

1. Too moderate (I want to get along)
2. His record sucks
3. Foolish to even open his mouth and utter words (He should have just said “I respect the Supreme Court’s decision and will abide by it”.)
4. Out-of-touch with Americans who say “IT IS A TAX, STUPID”
45. Like McCain, trying desparately to fail.

We need new leadership. Sarah, where are you?


21 posted on 07/03/2012 5:45:02 AM PDT by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot, thankfully.)
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Charles Krauthammer looked foolish on Fox’s Special Report yesterday trying to explain away this stupid blunder by the Romney campaign. Get used to it, Charles. There will be more to follow.


22 posted on 07/03/2012 5:53:35 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Fehrnstrom is the idiot who made the infamous “Etch-a-sketch” comment. Judge a candidate by the advisers he keeps.

Fehrnstrom is a first class fool.


23 posted on 07/03/2012 6:04:09 AM PDT by DManA
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Romney agrees with Kennedy, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito.

I do too. Obamacare is an unconstitutional mandate.

I understand that it's time to play politics and things have to be done and said to win.

However, when I think about it honestly, in my view this is more of a Roberts tax than an Obama tax. The law that Obama passed was and still is unconstitutional. Roberts created his own law.
25 posted on 07/03/2012 6:09:38 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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The way I see it, it’s a penalty AND a tax.


26 posted on 07/03/2012 6:12:29 AM PDT by crosshairs
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Further proving he’s nothing but Obama-lite.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 6:16:16 AM PDT by bgill
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